TiVo HD without cablecard?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by Vidfreaky, Aug 16, 2007.

  1. Vidfreaky

    Vidfreaky New Member

    Sep 3, 2006
    Anyone know if there's any chance that TiVo would ever release a box that records HD WITHOUT using cablecard (maybe by using a DVI or HDMI input) for those of us in Canada where there is NO cablecard support?
  2. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    The current box records OTA HD without cablecard.
  3. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Rochester NY
    From what I have read a HDMI stream is restricted from being recorded by HDMI specifications.

    I believe the HD output from component outputs can be recorded but it would take equipment that is more powerful than current TiVos.

  4. smbaker

    smbaker Well-Known Member

    May 24, 2003
    It also records unencrypted QAM, but without guide data. They seemed to have moved away from the Tivo + cablebox platform, so I doubt you'll see one with HDMI-in support.

    Personally, I started using OTA for my HD channels and have been fairly happy with the quality, even though I pay good money to the cable company for basic cable which includes digital HD networks (but Tivo lacks guide data for them)
  5. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Rochester NY
    I am assuming that the orginial poster (OP) was asking about recording HD content from a cable or satellite receiver/set-top box's (STB) HD output (DVI, HDMI, or component outputs).

    Do to Digital Rights Management (DRM)/licensing no one can record from a HDMI output.

    See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDCP

    HD component output streams however can be recorded, the problem is the amount of power need to transcode the HD component stream back into a MPEG 2 or 4 file. The people who seem to be in the know in this forum have indicated the current Series 3/TiVo HD units would not be able to do it even if they had the inputs.

    Personally I would love to have a TiVo HD that could because my only video option is satellite.


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