TiVo HD vs DirecTV Genie

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by EvilMidniteBombr, Apr 14, 2013.

  1. NorthAlabama

    NorthAlabama tabasco rules

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    in our market, the lowest is 6mbps down. comcast will soon double their lowest pkg to 12mbps down, but that will only match u-verse pricing here, for the same regular price, and a worse new customer offer.

    as will most providers, they charge what the market will bear.
     
  2. Bigg

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    They are upgrading all markets to 20/4 for ~$45 and 50/10 for ~$55, it will just take time to get all the upgrades out, as Comcast is slow as molasses at upgrading, partly because of how fragmented their systems are.
     
  3. Adam1115

    Adam1115 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Yes, you need an AM-21.

    Yes. (And it is NOT auto-record searches.)

    100.

    Yes, it requires internet access.

    I've never seen any commercials.

    I believe it supports pandora and youtube.

    You can keep them indefinitely on the genie.

    No.

    Genie records 5 shows, it is more efficient with disk space, streaming MRV is superior to TiVo's implementation. Genie a little buggier, TiVo has more 3rd party support (netflix, hulu, etc.)

    I think the Genie is a little better due to its MRV and 5 tuners.
     
  4. moyekj

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    Can you elaborate on that?
     
  5. Adam1115

    Adam1115 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    All DVRs and even non-DVRs participate in the same list, content is streamed (no downloading or waiting), compression is higher with MPEG4 so it works more efficiently, no network set up require (it is done over the coax).
     
  6. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    OK, no biggies then. MRS for series 4 units is also streaming (no downloading or waiting) and you can use MoCA to avoid ethernet for networking if desired.
     
  7. jcthorne

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    Its only $45 as part of a bundle. IE if you subscribe to TV services or telephone too. Its $60 for minimum speed service as stand alone and that is twice what I pay ATT.

    $60 a month for home internet service is more than I wish to pay, especially with a 300GB a month cap. Unlimited is Comcast business class and it starts at $80 a month.
     
  8. Bigg

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    Correct. They charge $15 more if you don't have Comcast TV, which is why DirecTV is never cheaper than Comcast. It's anti-competitive on Comcast's part, and I think it should be illegal, but unfortunately, it's not.
     
  9. Series3Sub

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    Actually Dish STB's (ViP's and Hoppers) do download and can be viewed during download or watched later and remain on the HDD for a limited number of days, sometimes a full month, before it is automatically removed due to content owners agreements. However, one is free to download the content again, even FREE content. It is not a streaming experience and I for one prefer downloads to streaming.

    Also, for the OP: Dish has the same type of DirecTV features such as moving your content to you Apple mobile device and Sling technology that allow you to watch live TV or all recordings from your DVR streamed to your PC, laptop, or mobile device. Essentially, you have all virtually all the features as if you were home.

    Both DircTV and Dish whole home DVR's have very competitive technology and features compared with TiVo. It really boils down to which one of the systems fit one's particular needs.
     
  10. NorthAlabama

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    yes, but there are very few titles, and you better be self sufficient. dtv's networking from the dvr to the router is not so solid, tech support is clueless about any feature except broadcast/satellite, and the forums are a bad joke, so you're on your own.

    no commercials, and no selection either. dtv offers a small fraction of the titles comcast offers, and the app isn't consistently stable. and, once again, basically no support.

    no podcasts available when i had dtv, and their youtube app was worse than tivo's, believe it or not.
     
  11. DarkSorrow

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    My friend managed to get a DirecTV Genie and he ordered 1 additional box for it. They setup thr internet on them via coaxial to the bed room which was where the Router was. Both boxes can turn into "On Demand" content. He's on a promotional for $55..00 a month right now. I'm actually surprised the Genies have 5 Tuners but the downside is each receiver uses one of the tuners to function.
     
  12. Adam1115

    Adam1115 Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    I'm not sue what Dish Network has to do with a comparison between the Genie and TiVo HD.... :confused:
     
  13. EvilMidniteBombr

    EvilMidniteBombr what bomz at midnite

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    Really? So, if I have 4 tvs connected to the Genie (1 local and 3 remotely) and 3 of those remote TVs were each watching a different program, I would only be able to channel surf on 2 tuners on the main tv?

    In other words, if the 3 remote tvs are watching different channels, I will not be able to record 3 different shows on the main tv without forcing a remote tv channel change. Correct?
     
  14. moyekj

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    Are the tuners permanently allocated away from the Genie for each client box or only when watching live TV on the client?
     
  15. Bigg

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    All dynamic. And if you have any H25's, they have their own tuner, but no live TV DVR features, just previously recorded playback from the HR44. The H25/HR34 was the 5-tuner DVR setup for a while before the C31's and the Genie branding.
     
  16. moyekj

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    Definitely sounds like TiVo has some catching up to do in this area then as that seems like a logical setup.
     
  17. Adam1115

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    It depends. You can have DVRs on those four tvs and they'd each have two tuners, so you'd have 11 tuners.

    But if they have RVU clients, then they can only either play content from the Genie or use one of its tuners. They don't have their own tuners.
     
  18. compnurd

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    You are correct and Direct TV has them beat there on the combined NPL list. Several DVRs on the same network still all make one list.. I miss that terribly
     
  19. BrettStah

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    For what it's worth, we have had no issues with the network connection between our DirecTV DVRs and our router. The On Demand selection seems pretty decent too, but I've never had Comcast to compare it to them. DirecTV says they have >10,000 On Demand titles available. You aren't just talking about the On Demand movies that are in the channel 100's, are you? That probably has about 25 unique movies or PPV events most of the time. But after you connect your DVR to a broadband connection, you have access to thousands of movie, TV series, concerts, etc.
     
  20. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    I don't really mind distributed listings since then you can then have different DVRs for different people and keep recordings separated. If there was a combined NPL list I'd want lots of options for organizing them if they were consolidated.
     

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