Tivo HD - Upgrade drive now or wait?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by davenull, Sep 13, 2007.

  1. davenull

    davenull New Member

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    The fall season is coming and I'm sure I will be very short of drive space on my new Tivo HD very soon. I did a little research on drive sizes and I feel like with a net of 500GB I'll be happy with my capacity for the lifetime of my Tivo. So I feel like I am at a decision point right now of deciding from:

    1. Upgrade internal drive
    2. Add-on an external eSATA
    3. Wait for a firmware update making the eSATA upgrade easier then do #2
    4. Wait for the official TiVo eSATA drive / support

    Technically, I am competent to do the upgrade but I don't look forward to all the tinkering and the last thing I want is to end up with an unstable TiVo and deal with the hassle of having something that doesn't work well.

    Does anyone have any theories on if TiVo does release the drive, how much might it cost?

    If I am going to do an upgrade now, am I better off upgrading the internal drive or adding on a eSata?

    What should I do?
     
  2. mphtrilogy

    mphtrilogy Member

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    I'm in a similar boat. I am going to wait for a TIvo approved esata drive myself, and put it on my christmas list.

    In the meantime, I am keepingf my cable dvr box as well as my Tivo to bridge the gap while I work the kinks out of the new tivo and wait for the esata external hard drive to be "officially" launched
     
  3. cr33p

    cr33p New Member

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    I would just go with upgrading the internal drive, IMHO a new internal drive will be more stable and dependable than a external drive any day, esp since with an add on drive you are spanning recordings across 2 drives this ups the odds of failure just by having two drives instead of one. And with a external drive its one more thing to have sitting with all of your components and eating up more power. The only reason I see for anyone to add an external drive is if they are completely afraid of opening the case. And at this point to add an external drive to a Tivo HD unit the original drive has to be pulled anyways. I have already performed 2 internal drive upgrades on my Tivo HD units and they went flawlessly. Spik25's WinMFS program is amazing. Need any help PM me
     
  4. bdlucas

    bdlucas Right side up again.

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    I've been asking myself the same question and decided to just go with upgrading the internal drive. In addition to the reasons mentioned above, an external drive is just that much more fan noise that I could do without. The TiVo HD is quiet, but not silent.
     
  5. cr33p

    cr33p New Member

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    You got it, and an external drive enclosure no matter how neat it looks will stand out like a sore thumb next to all of your components and fits very awkwardly.
     
  6. Warhawks

    Warhawks New Member

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    I hope to upgrade my internal drive with a 500gb. I am waiting for weaknees to have the 500 on "special of the day", rather than the 300 which has been for almost a week now!
     
  7. bdlucas

    bdlucas Right side up again.

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    Ordered mine (500GB DB35) from thenerds.net (who sponsor mfslive.org). Will let you know if I get good service.
     
  8. jfh3

    jfh3 Active Member

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    No reason to wait if you are comfortable with doing it yourself.
    Very easy with WinMFS and better overall to have one drive rather than two.
     
  9. joneSi

    joneSi New Member

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    Do it. WinMFS if you are linux-phobic (though you needn't be!) is a great way to go. I have a 750gb drive.

    joneSi
     
  10. jlib

    jlib Lean Forward

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    The only reason to wait is because all the manufacturers will have released 1TB drives by this month. That will put downward pressure on the price of the "sweet spot" 500-750GB drives. But really, it is not worth missing the season premieres just for a few bucks...
     
  11. CCourtney

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    I'll have to disagree with that statement. I don't see a reason to through let 160GB of more disk space collect dust.

    I personally have been flip-flopping with going the eSata route w/ a 500GB and using the 'SuperSize' option -> 20Hrs + 70Hrs (90Hrs) of HD record time. That's close to what may are doing with an 750GB internal w/o 'SuperSize' -> 96Hrs HD recording.

    I still have to open the box up and image the factory drive to do this as eSata plug in play is not available yet and the TiVo HD eSata update currently still requires the internal drive to be removed and imaged (then replaced) using MFS.

    CCourtney
     
  12. dpfels

    dpfels New Member

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    To Bruce:

    Can I ask which DB35 you ordered? From what I can tell, all of the DB35 drives on thenerds are PATA, not SATA. I think the SATA versions end in "SCE" not "ACE" like this: ST3500830SCE (the 500 GB version).

    I got this from weaknees raw drive page.

    Thanks,
    Dan
     
  13. control-z

    control-z New Member

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    I'm living with the stock drive in my Tivo HD. So far in a week or so I haven't filled it up. The eSATA option is intriguing, but when the time comes I'll probably go for a 750GB internal drive. Even though it's some trouble to do the upgrade, it's the cheapest and cleanest upgrade.
     
  14. jlib

    jlib Lean Forward

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    They have always had SATA DB35 drives.
     
  15. jkovach

    jkovach TiVoing since 1999!

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    Always? That's impressive.
     
  16. cr33p

    cr33p New Member

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    I think I would agree with you there, 160 gigs is a lot to have laying around collecting dust, In the near future I will be working on seeing if I can design a internal bracket to house an addl hdd within the case. So technically using the ESATA but from within the case.
     
  17. dpfels

    dpfels New Member

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    When I search DB35, I only get the drives ending in ACE which are PATA. I get the same thing when I click on the link from mfslive.

    Maybe I am doing something wrong.
    Dan
     
  18. bdlucas

    bdlucas Right side up again.

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  19. Kablemodem

    Kablemodem Get the ketchup.

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    Does replacing the internal drive in an S3 require repairing and/or reauthorizing the cable cards?
     
  20. cr33p

    cr33p New Member

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    Yes and no, if you do a install via a truncated image then you will have a stock drive just as if it where new again, if you use mfscopy it will retain all settings, shows, and season passes. I would recommend using WinMFS and do a mfscopy. That way its as if nothing ever changed.
     

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