Advertisements Sorry for the long message, but I'm really trying to wrap my head around this. I've got a Philips Series 1 that qualifies for the transfer. I'm pretty well convinced to do get the TivoHD, but I've got a few questions. First, on a technical front... I'd hate to get the TivoHD home and then have issues getting the cablecards working and potentially end up having to return it due to those issues. (If everything works okay I fully intend to keep it.) So, at what point should I actually call to transfer my lifetime? Before installing and configuring the cablecards, or after? Ideally I'm thinking I'd like to do it after so I can make sure everything is set up and working okay before I transfer. I'm afraid that if I transfer the lifetime first before settting up the HD, and if I have problems and end up needing to return the HD, will they transfer my lifetime back to my S1 and refund my $199? Regarding hard drive upgrades, I know this technically voids your warranty, but is there something on the unit that makes it obvious whether a unit was opened or not, like one of those "seal" stickers that you have to break or something? My thought is, as I've read in some other posts, I'd get it working first and then upgrade the hard drive myself and keep the old drive as a backup. But if I had trouble with the unit down the road that would otherwise be covered under warranty could I theoretically put the original drive back in and take/send it in for warranty service? Or would it be obvious that it had been opened? Also, what is the standard warranty on these anyway? 90 days? 1 year? 3 years? Now, on the subject of cost... Am I correct that I have these 2 options? On a side note, I will say that I have no interest in keeping my S1 once I get the HD, though down the road I may get an additional S2 or another HD, but not right away. 1. Keep my S1 with the life sub for free (even though I don't care about the S1 anymore), buy the HD and pay $6.95/month for it under the MSD? Sometime down the road they may offer another lifetime transfer offer that I could use on another HD (or they might not). 2. Buy the HD, transfer the sub for the $199 and just stop using my S1 (even though it's got a year free, I don't see me using it). BUT, with having transferred the S1 life sub to the HD, would I still be able to buy an S2 or another HD down the road and pay only the $6.95/mo on that under MSD? I'm really debating whether to bother to transfer the life sub or to just keep the S1 active for free and pay the $6.95/mo on the HD under MSD. Again, this is considering that I currently have no interest in keeping my S1 once I get the HD, but may down the road (another year minimum) want to add an S2 or another HD. Somebody tell me if you see any holes in my math. On a basic level, $199 to transfer the life sub vs. the $6.95/mo MSD fee gives about a 28 month payback. So if I have it 2.5 years I'm better off to do the lifetime transfer. Is that correct? BUT, going further and taking into account what I'm currently paying in fees for my cable company DVR, I can actually save money in the long run by buying the TivoHD and giving up my cable company DVR. Right now I pay a total of $15.90 for my cable company DVR (between the hardware rental and DVR "service" fee). The cable cards from them are $1.99 each. So I drop from $15.90/mo to $3.98, for a difference of $11.92. If I keep the S1 lifetime and do the $6.95/mo on the TivoHD, between that and my cablecard rental that's $10.93/mo, or $4.97 savings over what I'm paying for the cable company DVR. $299 for the purchase of the TivoHD, divided by the $4.97/mo savings is a paypack of 60 mo, or 5 years. If I transfer the lifetime sub, that's a total of $498 between the purchase and transfer fee for the TivoHD. My only monthly fee at that point would be the $3.98/mo cablecard rental, the savings mentioned above of $11.92/mo. So $498 divided by the $11.92/mo savings is a payback of 41 months, or about 3.5 years. After that I've got DVR service essentially totally free vs. what I'm paying now to use the cable company's DVR. Correct? (Oh, I have the cable company DVR because it is at least dual-tuner and HD capable, and until the TivoHD came out I couldn't justify the cost of a Series 3.) So it looks like transferring is the way to go assuming I will have for that 3.5 years. Do I interpret this all correctly? Again, any holes in my math? Thanks much!