Tivo has just Screwed EVERY S3 owner!

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by rick123, Mar 3, 2010.

  1. Mar 3, 2010 #41 of 296
    convergent

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    Rick, I think you completely wrong. You are obviously quite upset about this, and I think you have no reason to be. Unless you are living under a rock, it can't be news to you that with technology products, there is eventually something new that comes out. You said you've had them for 18 months. I can understand being annoyed if you bought it a month ago, but a year and a half??? No one said they aren't going to continue updating the Series 3s. They've added all kinds of stuff to it since you bought it... Netflix, Blockbuster, and the whole search capability that's in the new box. You aren't going to get the totally new user interface, but my guess is it would be painfully slow on the older processor... which is about 3 years old technology. I'm sure if new capabilities (similar to Netflix) that are compatible with the Series 3 are possible to add, they will add them. By your logic, the Series 2 owners should have been up in arms that they didn't get Netflix.

    You mentioned the value of your existing Series 3 Tivos has dropped. Again, please tell me this wasn't a surprise to you... next generation box comes out and the hold ones drop in value. I bought a brand new MacBook Pro about a month after the unibody models came out for about $1400, and it was close to $3000 the month prior. Its life in the technology world.

    The flip side of your argument is that there is so little new in this announcement that I'm not sure its even worth upgrading. I returned a Tivo XL at Christmas time because they couldn't produce one that didn't have the reboot error, and now I'm sitting here having lived without it for a few months wondering if I really need it.

    You want something to complain about, try dealing with Time Warner Cable which blocks me from pretty much ALL MRV and randomly drops out dozens of channels when the Tuning Adapter is acting up (which is all of the time now). I was hoping Tivo would produce a box that could stream so I could do MRV, but I guess I'll wait until 2013 for the Series 5 to see that.
     
  2. Mar 3, 2010 #42 of 296
    WhiskeyTango

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    Never happen. Read the TOS.

    That is what you are paying for. Essentially a monthly rental fee of their software.
     
  3. Mar 3, 2010 #43 of 296
    ewilts

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    I know it will never happen. Just because I want it and I think it's the right thing to do doesn't mean anything.

    I also bought Lifetime (on the original Series 1, transferred to a Series 2, and then uplifted to my Series 3).
     
  4. Mar 3, 2010 #44 of 296
    solutionsetc

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    Agreed… but to be frank, that has been the case since I have been a TiVo owner.
     
  5. Mar 3, 2010 #45 of 296
    scooterboy

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    I'm fairly new to the S3, but can someone tell me why it's so important to some people that the UI be in HD?

    Call me crazy, but I use my tivo to watch programming, not menus. As long as the programming is in HD, who cares if the Now Playing List isn't?

    Put another way - if you're showing off your fabulous HD display to someone, are you really going to use a tivo menu to do it?
     
  6. Mar 3, 2010 #46 of 296
    Lorelei

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    We paid $250 :(
     
  7. Mar 3, 2010 #47 of 296
    doopstr

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    I suspect that much of the free space gained by an HD gui will be taken up by ads.

    At this point, there is nothing in the S4 that makes me want to toss my HD out the window.
     
  8. Mar 3, 2010 #48 of 296
    NJ_HB

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    There are pros and cons to the OPs argument. However TiVo already has an marketable audience for its new S4 with us prior owners/subscribers. Somebody somewhere should realize that we are an easier sell, we already took the plunge. Make us a deal we cant refuse and move a lot of units right away.
    The other method is to spend money advertising and trying to convert other DVR owners to give up their Cable Co DVRs for TiVo. Other DVR owners never have to worry about technology(S1,S2,S3,S4), they simply trade their rented box whenever they want to get caught up with no extra cash outlay in their eyes.
     
  9. Mar 3, 2010 #49 of 296
    Lorelei

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    Just speaking to my BF - we are going to go to best buy and ask for a price adjustment. if we can keep this one for $180 I think it is worth it don't you think?

    Thanks to you all for all of your advice!
     
  10. Mar 3, 2010 #50 of 296
    Adam1115

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    My series 3 always performed flawlessly... My face doesn't feel slapped.
     
  11. Mar 3, 2010 #51 of 296
    solutionsetc

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    Simply to get rid of the 6 inch tall letters that can not even show the complete title of a short-named movie in list such as the wishlist search, thus requiring endless stepping back and forth from lists to detail screens.

    For me it is just a usability issue. There was no requirement for a lot of processor eating eye-candy, just let me see more detailed information about the shows I am browsing in a list.

    And form the looks of the screen shots I have seen so far, the new UI is heavily weighted on eye-candy part of this (I am sure the "suits" loved that aspect of it).
     
  12. Mar 3, 2010 #52 of 296
    theoryzero

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    Maybe you have it confused. I just returned a camera two days ago and was charged no restocking fee. I even asked when I originally purchased it two weeks ago, if they had a restocking fee. She said, "No we don't do that anymore."
     
  13. Mar 3, 2010 #53 of 296
    asarathy

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    Ding Ding Ding.... there it is.
     
  14. Mar 3, 2010 #54 of 296
    profxyz

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    :)

    Every time I think about how much advertising and et all
    Tivo isn't dumping out on me because of the old GUI, and
    how much the new boxes owners will howl about the ads,

    I wonder about just how long will my Tivo S3 will last.

    "The new box will be fully compatabile with every ad on the
    internet."

    :up:

    Prof.
     
  15. Mar 3, 2010 #55 of 296
    JeffKusnitz

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    I've wondered the same thing. The only reason I could think of was so that my TV wouldn't pause awkwardly when switching from whatever HD mode it is in while watching something to the mode that menus are displayed in - sometimes it's several seconds of black screen. But I get that sometimes when switching channels, so presumably I could just buy a new tv that switches faster :)
     
  16. Mar 3, 2010 #56 of 296
    ewilts

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    Force the output resolution to either 720p or 1080i. Letting it automatically the resolution based on the input channel causes those pauses.

    Unless, of course, you're using those pauses as justification to the significant other that you need a new TV :)
     
  17. Mar 3, 2010 #57 of 296
    bicker

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    Absolutely on-target. It is unreasonable to expect a UI made to work with the components of a new device to magically work for an old device with old components in it.
     
  18. Mar 3, 2010 #58 of 296
    scooterboy

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    Fair point. I haven't been using my TivoHD long enough to have noticed that I guess. And I don't use Wishlists that frequently.
     
  19. Mar 3, 2010 #59 of 296
    profxyz

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    :)

    I set my S3 to native, I let my new $1000.00 Onkyo upscale Comcast's
    ratty signal to 1080p. The chips in the Onkyo must be at least a 1000%
    better.

    The pauses teach me patience. (grasshopper)

    Prof.
     
  20. Mar 3, 2010 #60 of 296
    drjlb

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    So how is it that the beta Search works on S3 hardware? Maybe all of the flash based "upgrades" won't, but the contextual menus sure seem like they could.
     

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