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Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by sbiller, Jun 6, 2011.
Just did it. Gonna replace an HD with a Premiere for $7 more a month.
I really don't see this as much of a deal. Commit to two years at $20 instead of one plus $99 for the small, entry level hard drive version.
Can we just get lifetime on this and pay no money for the box?
It is a deal for people who don't have or wish to put out money up front. At the end of the 2 years, those folks may very well not continue as TiVo may either have a better model to upgrade or be out of business. It is a good deal for some people, not for the affluent and rich. It is one way that people can get a TiVo in the house and free themselves of the cable co headache DVR's.
I understand, but my current "upgrade" offer is $99 + $14.99 a month or $399 lifetime.
I'd just like to get a free box and $399 lifetime.
Further expoitation of the lower and middle class.
Just the opposite, gives everyone one more choice.
Well paying $20/mo for 24 months is $480, which is about the same amount a unit with lifetime will cost. I don't think spending $480 (or $580 without MSD) requires someone to be affluent and rich, heck I paid $500 (cash) for a VCR in 1985 and I was making under $18,000/yr. at the time. If someone can't even save $500 they really should worry about their finances not buying a TiVo.
That said from a Marketing point of view some people will just like the zero down offer and for a new customer (no MSD) who wants to pay monthly it is cheaper over 24 months than the current $99 plus $20/mo for min. of 1 year deal.
As sort of mentioned above, this is a lame deal... you'll have paid $480 over 2 years. You can buy a new one for $83 (from Amazon) then pay the $399 lifetime service fee (w/MSD) and have paid only $2 more. Plus after 2 years, if you do the $0, you'll have to continue to pay a monthly fee or then pay a lifetime fee (we'll assume $399). But if go the purchase and lifetime subscription route, you'll never have to pay another monthly fee.
Basically, what sounds like a good deal at $0 down, if people don't do their homework, they're gonna get screwed.
It's $130 cheaper than paying the former regular retail price of $299 for the tivo and nearly $311 ($12.95 x 24) for two yeas of service. Hardly exploitation. Being able to get a better deal also doesn't make it any sort of exploitation.
Still don't see it with the 360GB or whatever drive. I'd at least invest the extra $150 up front to upgrade it to a 2TB preconfigured replacement so I wouldn't don't run out of space in a few months.
For those of us still on monthly, who will continue to be on monthly, it works out better. Keep in mind lots of folks like me still have Series 2 Tivos (yes, I do still have SD TVs as well). So.....
$480 over 24 months - minus $100 for the unit is $380 - divided by 24 months is about $15 a month. Only $2 more per month for Tivo service.
I pay $7 a month for my cable box, which I use with the IR blaster. That goes down to $3 a month, for cable card, leaving $4 a month deficit - take away the $2 a month extra I pay in Tivo service, I still come out $2 a month ahead.
No - I never did lifetime on either of my Tivos. Why? Because quite honestly I didn't know I would have them in service as long as I did. And - I'm committing to two years, and putting myself in a position where I can use my Tivos on HDtvs when I eventually upgrade.
So honestly - not everyone thinks it is such a horrible deal.
All in perspective.....
Yeah, I guess if you're into extra cost monthly with no up front cost....
-- Series 1 Sony with lifetime since Dec 2000 still running in the basement serves as my base for MSD
-- Bedroom HDXL on annual at $99
-- Workout room HDXL 2 TB at $6.95 monthly
-- Living Room PXL on $299 lifetime
All except the S1 because I had to ditch my two perfectly good, upgraded S2s that were costing me 6.95/mo when Comcast rendered them mostly useless last year in our digital upgrade.
Seems like a horrible deal to me. Go lifetime.
Save some money first if you have to. These types of deals just dig a hole for yourself. You never have enough money so you're always taking the worst terms.
That's just bad math.
Here's the better math.
$600 for a lifetime PRemiere or $480 for 2 years of monthly Premiere payments.
AFter 2 years the monthly Premiere is worth pretty much $0.
After 2 years the lifetime Premiere will be worth at least $300 conservatively.
Total outlay after 2 years for the lifetime PRemiere is $600-$300=$300
Total outlay after 3 years for monthly FAther's Day Premiere is $480.
And the $600 is worst case lifetime Premiere price. You can save a few bucks on Amazon and get a PRemiere for $83. And you might be able to finagle lifetime from Tivo for $400 instead of $500 especially if you've been a long time customer.
You have it nailed !!! but some people think the world going to end soon so they think they will make out with monthly, has not happened in the last 11 years and may not happen in the next 10 years.
I paid $99 for the premier and $99 annual prepaid(99/12 = 8.25/mo) under msd.
and also pay $129 yearly(129/12 = 10.75?mo) for tivo hd. Thats $19 monthly for 2 boxes. This is the cheapest rate per month for tivo. If any of the box breaks which you can never tell, I dont loose that much money compared to lifetime subs plus its easier to upgrade if a new models come in.
I'm not nearly as worried about the end of the world as I am about sinking a bunch of money into a unit and having it die beyond repairableness 3 minutes later.
Or TiVo pulling a UK, and coming up with yet another re-definition of "lifetime".