Tivo Experience 4 is terrible

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by dsmoore, Apr 26, 2020.

  1. dsmoore

    dsmoore New Member

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    I have 6 Tivos and 2 minis and the TiVo BOLT VOX has the new Tivo Experience 4.

    I've had this for 6 months and I can say there's nothing I like about Experience 4. First, the guide set-up for the tv programs moves across the screen horizontally and not vertically like the Tivo Experience 3. It take more time to scan through the programs this way because it displays less of what's coming up and depending if the program duration is more than an hour, displays the same program twice as you fast forward through the guide. Very inefficient.

    Second, when I click on a program I want to watch, Tivo starts to play one of its own commercials. I have to click on play again in order to skip the commercial. Terrible.

    Third, when I click through my menu of programs I've recorded, it displays a picture or frame in the background of the TV show. I find this feature distracting. I also believe this is one of the reasons why the Tivo is slower and not as responsive. Kludgy.

    I've called to see if I can switch back to the Tivo Experience 3. I can but was told I would loose all of my programs. So I ordered the new Tivo Edge and plan on transferring my programs off the TiVo BOLT VOX to the new Tivo Edge. When this is finished I'll switch my TiVo BOLT VOX to the Experience 3, transfer back the programs from the Edge to the VOX, and send the EDGE back to Tivo for a refund.

    There are many other issues I have with Experience 4. It is a down grade from Tivo Experience 3. The Tivo team dropped the ball on this one. After 20 years of being impressed by the Tivo Team I would just like to know what happened.
     
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  2. pfiagra

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    FIX: Removing Ads Before Watching a Recorded Event

    The background image or video can be turned off in your settings.

    Video Window
     
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  3. KevTech

    KevTech Active Member

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    Could have just used Pytivo desktop or Kmttg to download your programs off the vox then once back on TE3 you could just upload them back to the vox.
     
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  4. kpeters59

    kpeters59 Well-Known Member

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    Why not use one of the 5 other TiVo's to transfer the shows to?

    The Edge cannot be 'improved' to TE3.

    Though, you could probably transfer everything to it and back and then return it within 30 days. Now that it's ordered.

    KMTTG can backup your OnePasses, Channels List and Thumbs Rating in order to make set up on the new(ly TE3'd) TiVo.

    -KP
     
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  5. Wil

    Wil Unknown Member

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    There is a legitimate difference of opinion on this.

    On the one hand there are people who agree with you; on the other hand there are deluded people.
     
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  6. dsmoore

    dsmoore New Member

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    All my other TIVOs are full so I need the Edge to do the transfer.
     
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  7. dsmoore

    dsmoore New Member

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    I would love to know why you like the Tivo Experience 4. Lets start with the guide function. Thanks.
     
  8. Wil

    Wil Unknown Member

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    Let me count the ways I like The Tivo Experience 4. Firstly, it's optional at this point, for most Tivos; you can get rid of it; I like that a lot. The second thing I like about it ... ... ... [timed out]
     
  9. Series3Sub

    Series3Sub Well-Known Member

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    Once you have saved all your programs and returned the DVR's for full refund, I would advise the following:

    Get a TiVo Roamio either from "fleabay" (less expensive option) or WeaKness (reputable TiVo dealer and repair service, but sometimes more expensive to buy TiVo DVR). The Series 5 TiVo OTA or Roamio come with TE3, but do (perhaps not the OTA only model) allow the option to "upgrade" to TE4, but just don't select to upgrade to TE4.

    The Roamios are the best TiVo DVR's for those who do not want S6 Bolts (and its problems that Roamios don't have) or the latest S7 Edge with commericals that play whilst starting playback of a recording (this is also a feture to any older TiVo models--Bolts and Roamios--that you "upgrade" to TE4). The Roamios feature both the traditional/classic TiVo Guide or the Grid guide; the choice is yours.

    The Roamio OTA was being offered at a LOWER price at WeaKnees (that may have changed) than on the TiVo website. The Roamio OTA is a ONE price for the DVR that INCLUDES "Lifetime" or "All-in" at NO ADDITONAL CHARGE--EVER. If you need access to cable than you are looking to get Roamio Plus or Roamio Pro, both of which are cable ONLY and have 6 tuners (the Basic Roamio is ONLY Cable OR ONLY OTA that you choose at the Set-up process, but Roamio "Basic" have only 4 tuners).

    The ONLY difference between the Roamio Plus and Roamio Pro is the size of the HDD installed by TiVo factory new or TiVo replacement. The Plus has a smaller HDD than the Pro when brand-new, but you may find sellers on "fleabay" who have upgraded their Roamio to a larger HDD.

    Based upon your post, I think you will find the TiVo Roamio the best fit. It is the latest Series TiVo with TE3 out of the box (or "downgradable" to TE3 if someone had "upgraded" to TE4), that functions fast enough and is closer to the classic TiVo UI experience with all the great TiVo features such as Recordings Transfers and Recordings Streamed to view at either a TiVo Mini or another S4 or higher TiVo model.
     
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  10. dsmoore

    dsmoore New Member

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    The Edge comes with TE4. No going back to TE3. If I do go back to TE3 on my Bolt I'll loose all my programs. Please continue on why you like TE4. Do you like the program guide better on the TE3 or TE4?
     
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  11. dsmoore

    dsmoore New Member

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    Thanks for the response. I do have the Roamio and it's great. I may purchase another one. Thanks again.
     
  12. tommiet

    tommiet Active Member

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    With all your hard drives full.. Does not seem like TE4 is an issue.

    Are you collecting TV shows as a hobby? Guess its better than stamp collecting.

    Why not just buy a 8tb hard drive and save some money? You do understand that hard drives do die...

    Hope it all works out for you.

    Be safe.
     
  13. Wil

    Wil Unknown Member

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    Sure. I'm really puzzled about why you keep asking me, of all people, about this, but sure.

    I'll list all the reasons right here:
     
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  14. Narkul

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    TE4 is fine for me, although both are lacking when it comes to streaming.
    My personal take on the reasons you dislike.

    1. I never use the guide for anything anymore. I watch mostly recorded and streaming, and the only live stuff I watch is the occasional sports and news. The Tivo search feature is much more useful to me than the guide as I get show recommendations from these forums and other online sources and just use search to find it.

    2. Pre-roll, I tolerated for a while when they were few and far between, but when they preceded every recording I called and had them disabled.

    3. I actually like the program list, very snappy on my Bolt anyway. I do have TE3 on a bedroom Roamio Tivo and cannot tell any speed difference but maybe it would be slower on that Roamio if I upgraded.

    Some other common grievances:

    Transfers, I have no use for this. I don't really know why I'd want to transfer anything.

    Suggestions, since my original series one Tivo, I don't think I've ever been interested in watching a suggestion, maybe on the off chance a season pass recording was missed and suggestion maybe picked it up.

    With that said, I can certainly understand why some folks are sticking with TE3. I would like to think that Tivo will eventually ditch TE3 and TE4 for an Android solution but that seems unlikely as this round of owners seem to want to pull away from consumer DVRs
     
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  15. pfiagra

    pfiagra Active Member

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    For me, the big shortcomings that others have with TE4 (lack of live guide, transfers, etc.) aren’t anything that I use and the preroll ads have been removed with minimal effort.

    One thing I do miss is the intuitive number shortcuts (1 = onepass; 2 = todo list; etc.), but have gotten used to the new ones I’ve set up on TE4.

    TE4 pluses for me:
    1. There are more shows listed on the screen when I check my wishlists for any matches.
    2. The graphical icons instead of text, especially in the ‘Up’ QuickView panel (the guide that ‘sort of’ replaces the Live Guide).
    3. Able to use of the new wireless adapter with my Mini VOX.
     
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  16. mattyro7878

    mattyro7878 Well-Known Member

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    The thing about the background pictures is they dont serve a purpose. If you are zipping through the guide you dont even get a pic until you land on a title and stay there. After reading this I may **** them off as well.
     
  17. mattyro7878

    mattyro7878 Well-Known Member

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    Pretty sure I wrote "turn them off as well". I wonder why it posted as ****.
     
  18. mdavej

    mdavej Well-Known Member

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    In 6 months it's never occurred to you to up/down arrow during live tv to get the mini "live guide" program listing you want?
     
  19. trip1eX

    trip1eX imo, afaik, feels like to me, *exceptions, ~aprox

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    After having YTTV Netflix etc for 6 months, this thread feels like I am visiting a tribe in the Amazon who has had no known contact with the outside world.
     
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  20. mdavej

    mdavej Well-Known Member

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    I did have fun filling in every bad word I could think of to see what fit. Closest thing I found was ****.
     
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