TiVo EPG fallback position

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  1. Feb 9, 2011 #81 of 107
    cwaring

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    No need for insults :p
     
  2. Feb 9, 2011 #82 of 107
    steford

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    To get back on topic - wouldn't the simplest thing for roll your own TV data be to grab XMLTV feeds (or similar), parse them and then reconfigure for Tivo in a simple automated script? Would seem like the least fuss built on a relatively solid platform already in place. Additional Tivo functionality could be scripted if required eg suggestions.

    I'd happily donate for server space which wouldn't need to be much I wouldn't have thought.
     
  3. Feb 9, 2011 #83 of 107
    alextegg

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    Yes absolutely, and that's the point, this has already been done down under.
     
  4. Feb 10, 2011 #84 of 107
    spitfires

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    The Oz system requires a complete re-image of your Tivo disc. Basically they replace the TiVo supplied software with a reprogramed version (that is specific to the Oz/NZ setup). I don't think we want that here.
     
  5. Feb 10, 2011 #85 of 107
    martink0646

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    Hi Spitfires,

    What we want is for the EPG data to continue, but if it doesn't I'm prepared to do (or pay for) the work.

    Surely you will too rather than brick your TiVo?

    Martin
     
  6. Feb 10, 2011 #86 of 107
    TCM2007

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    You have to hack the system software to talk to the right server. Doesn't necessarily need to be done as a whole re-image, but that's probably easiest.
     
  7. Feb 10, 2011 #87 of 107
    Leif_Davidsen

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    If we are forced to move off Tivo EPG data to an Oz type solution - does this mean we could use more recent hardware? Was the Oz hardware better than our S1 units?
     
  8. Feb 10, 2011 #88 of 107
    spitfires

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    *sigh*

    Of course I want my Tivo to continue - what I was saying is that the Oz system requires you to replace the existing image with their hacked version. If you want to use the Oz system then you have to re-image (yes, you do). I think that is over-complicated for what we need (hence "I don't think we want that here" - with emphasis on the word "that").

    No - they used S1 units imported from the US or our own trusty S1 Thompsons! :eek:

    Therefore I think we should look for something else. Especially if we want a solution that will work for the non-techy, joe public.
     
  9. Feb 10, 2011 #89 of 107
    TCM2007

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    You need to add the software which gets the guide data and loads it into the TiVo database. That requires hacking your TiVo. In theory you could do it without a complete re-image, but in practice why would you?

    The Aussies also often imported US TiVos which also needed to be hacked for PAL.

    I see someone's having a tinker, as there are headend slices dates Feb 7th on the Aussie server!


    Not an option as far as I can see; there's no "just change the phone number" type solution. At least rudimentary hacking skills required.
     
  10. Feb 10, 2011 #90 of 107
    spitfires

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    Ah yes the PAL thing - they had to unsolder the NTSC tuner and solder on a PAL one :eek:

    /etc/tclientUK.conf contains the dial-up numbers and subsequent IP address of the TiVo mothership :)

    Agree that some hacking will be required but I think we need to keep it as simple as poss, if poss ;)
     
  11. Feb 10, 2011 #91 of 107
    spitfires

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    ... of course an alternative would be that TiVo Inc officially let us take over support and service for the UK S1 TiVos :eek: - then they could create a version just for us (2.5.5b) with all the necessary changes in it. Might be good for PR? (allows them to wash their hands of us while still being seen as 'nice')

    Nah, I'm off in cuckoo land again... :(
     
  12. Feb 10, 2011 #92 of 107
    TCM2007

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    You'd have to build a server which emulated the TiVo server as far as the box is concerned. I don't think the Aussies or Safas have managed that; I think they directly copy and then load slice files with a script running as a hack. Emulating the TiVo server is a lot harder. As you'd need to hack your Tivo to change that file (hadn't realised it was in a cleartext file, handy), you might as well install the Aussie-style system while you're at it.
     
  13. Feb 10, 2011 #93 of 107
    TCM2007

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    Well it would be worth asking if that day comes!
     
  14. Feb 10, 2011 #94 of 107
    ramtops

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    I doubt I'd have to build a *whole server* - and if that was necessary, I could bung a VM on one of my web servers.

    I don't want to reimage - I have stacks of unwatched stuff!
     
  15. Feb 10, 2011 #95 of 107
    TCM2007

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    You'd have to build something which emulated the TiVo server in terms of responding to the requests the TiVo box sends. That's complicated.

    You can pull any unwatched video onto your PC and then re-insert it. Time consuming but possible.
     
  16. Feb 15, 2011 #96 of 107
    einstein

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    don't want to sound smug here, with the previous posts, of 12-18 months, but looks like we've been dumped!

    I wondered why there were so many TiVos appearing on ebay!
     
  17. Feb 17, 2011 #97 of 107
    STEPG

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    Good (UK) evening TIVo people,

    We're in the process of developing an open EPG pilot for Linux based satellite receivers.

    I am sure we could extend the scope of the pilot to support the time slice data required to populate TIVo's.

    If there are any NETWORK connected TIVo's that would be interested, let me know and we'll feed the response into the dev team

    Kind Regards

    Jon Brooks
    SimplyTheEPG
     
  18. Feb 17, 2011 #98 of 107
    Heuer

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    I'd be interested and would like to hear more about your EPG.
     
  19. Feb 17, 2011 #99 of 107
    djb2002

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    I'd certainly be interested in this too !

    Thanks
    Daniel
     
  20. Fred Smith

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    Another very interested TiVo user. Please keep us informed.
     

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