Tivo elite

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by trachka, Jan 7, 2012.

  1. Innerloop

    Innerloop New Member

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    Our cable system claims to automatically re-broadcast the analog channels with single- or double-digit channel numbers digitally, but in a way that (with a Comcast box at least) remaps them to appear just like the original channels.

    Do TP boxes in general, or the TP Elite box specifically, know how to deal with this remapping already? If I am looking at a local SD channel on my current TP and the channel number is "2", am I looking at Analog 2 or digital simulcast 2 automatically re-mapped?

    Is there a way to verify that I'm not dependent on any analog channels?
     
  2. WVZR1

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    Assuming you're using a cable card now if you remove the cable from the TiVo and attach it directly to the TV and you can't tune 2 - 99 your service is "digitally converted"! In some areas there's Comcast and then there's Comcast "Cable-card" - there are sometimes subtle differences.

    TiVo has a 30 day "no questions asked" return policy, there's also several states where TiVo doesn't have sales tax agreements so there's no sales tax charged. If you're an existing subscriber sometimes you ask and you shall receive a Slide remote or a wireless adapter. Many reasons to buy from TiVo directly!

    You can swap a Comcast cable-card and all of your subscribed channels except your premiums should work.

    There's no reason "not to try the Elite"!
     
  3. ltxi

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    Unless you need the two extra tuners the answer is no.

    New Premieres can be had with 2TB from reliable third party sources for $250 if you need the additional disk space.
     
  4. vurbano

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    To me, the elite makes no sense unless Tivo is going to come out with cheap secondary boxes like the moxi system. Your other rooms still need some sort of box and right now those would be premiere units which have 2 tuners in them. In say a 3bdr house the typical family would have a premiere in the 3 bedrooms and a premiere in the living room. Thats 8 recording tuners total. Why would anyone need the 4 tuners in an elite unit then? Seems to me Tivo needs to sell a whole home solution which includes just tuner/streaming boxes that can talk to the Elite unit
     
  5. zalusky

    zalusky Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    I have had situations where my wife is recording two things at the same time in the bedroom and I want to watch something else live at the same time. So for now I don't see another way around it.
     
  6. JosephB

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    Well, they are doing this for TiVos provided by a cable company. The Elite was primarily meant for cable companies but since it takes minimal effort they're also selling them at retail. I think the sales argument for the Elite is for high end customers. For example in another thread someone had two Elites and three Premieres. Other than that, the actual genesis of the Elite was for the cable-provided market (where you can get a Preview). There are rumors, and I think TiVo is considering, that they will do the Preview for retail customers. It's just a wait and see right now.
     
  7. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Raconteur TCF Club

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    The key is your first two words. "To me".

    Everyone is different. I watch on one TV, and recently bought an Elite to go with my ol' reliable S3. I haven't transferred 3 recordings (we also have an S3 on our bedroom TV) in 10 years of TiVos. I love having four tuners.
     
  8. gteague

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    this was a big drawing point for me buying the elite, having gigabit ethernet from my computer to the tivo for those time i wanted to upload shows from the mac to the elite. but i was disappointed to find, as you have pointed out, that this operation is only marginally faster, if at all. definitely not a 10x improvement (which i wasn't expecting anyway because the 10/100/1000 progression doesn't denote order-of-magnitude increases), but not even a 2x or a 1.5x improvement in transfer times.

    /guy
     
  9. L David Matheny

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    Ultimately there should be (and someone said there is or will be) some way for any off-the-rack TV to stream content from a TiVo or a similar device. Then the box you're talking about (TiVo Preview or whatever) will be used only to make older sets compatible, like the converter boxes sold during the digital transition. Eventually no remote box should be needed.
     
  10. Saberj

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    We just use the cable company provided Miniboxes in our bedrooms. Even if we wanted a DVR in there, there is no way I would pay $15 a month (Plus Cablecards) per room to do it. As it stands, if we want to watch DVRed content, we go to the living room. If we are in the bedroom, we watch whatever is on currently.

    Our living room TV is the best in the house anyway, by a significant margin. So it's not a big deal to me. That's where I WANT to watch the real shows.

    Now if the previews came out for a good price and minimal monthly cost ($5 a month), then maybe....
     
  11. nelamvr6

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    Do you really think that every Tivo user is in the same situation as you?

    I have ONE TV and ONE Tivo in my ONE bedroom apartment. Having four tuners makes a HUGE difference to me.

    If an Elite makes no sense to you then don't buy one. But perhaps you should try to imagine other people's situations for a second before you start projecting. It seems to me that you didn't put much thought into your post.
     
  12. hillyard

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    Sunday and thursdays put the 4 tuners to work that is when most of the show I like are on. especialy with HBO, Starz, and skinomax
     
  13. aaronwt

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    I'm using my Elites' four tuners on a regular basis. Plus my other Premieres are also recording shows. If my GF lived with me, there would be no way that the Elite would be anywhere close to enough tuners for the both of us since she records many shows that I do not watch with her.

    And my friends with four and five family members they typically have two tuner DVRs in bedrooms and the main TV view area. They don't have enough tuners right now, and adding two more in the main viewing area still wouldn't be enough for everyone in the family to record what each person wants. They would still have to make compromises.
     
  14. gteague

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    before my s3 tanked it, the two tuners in it were just barely enough for me, but i had to really set up the sp priorities with care, putting shows that didn't repeat for awhile to the top and channels like hbo, showtime, history and discovery lower down because they routinely repeat shows multiple times on the the same day.

    the problem with this amount of mucking around in the season pass manager is, of course, the 10-15 minute database shuffle whenever you touch anything in there. note: now that i have the tivo apps for iphone, ipad, and android i can do the re-arranging on the device and at least i can continue to use the tivo while that device is put on hold.

    with 4 tuners i don't have to sweat the priorities as much and now i can watch a football game on monday night while 2 sitcoms and a cw series record simultaneously.

    /guy
     
  15. Teeps

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    Does anyone know if the component (YPrPb) output signal of an Elite is limited?
     
  16. oViTynoT

    oViTynoT Obvious Forum Lurker

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    Limited? In terms of what?
     
  17. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Limited how? I know it will output at 1080i since I have that along with the composite output going to my HAVA box.
     
  18. btwyx

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    It works for me. We have one main TV, need about 2GB of storage and had conflicts with only 2 tuners.
     
  19. Teeps

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    You have answered the question; Elite does output 1081i on the component outputs.
    But, do you also have the hdmi cable connected?

    I got a blueray dvd player (a gift) and it too, had component outputs.
    The problem was, this blueray player only did HD 1080i/p via hdmi; component output only did 480i.
     
  20. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Raconteur TCF Club

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    Exactly this. Before I gave great thought to scheduling new SPs; now I just add them willy-nilly.

    However, my SP-OCD still exists: when I add new SPs, I still find myself arranging them in a very specific order (day of the week, OTA, cable, etc). I'm pretty sure it's an incurable disease.:D
     

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