TiVo Edge (Series 7 DVR for Cable)

Discussion in 'TiVo Edge' started by NashGuy, Jun 18, 2019.

  1. Oct 9, 2019 #1001 of 1057
    BillyClyde

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    Perhaps you didn’t read my posts thoroughly?.......

    I’ve already explained in the posts above that the Roamio OTA does indeed have “the hardware” installed, with the exception of the bracket that holds the cablecard. This is easily remedied by using a bracket from another TiVo. Which as I also said, I did and I am using said Roamio OTA as we speak......with digital cable using a cablecard. It doesn’t do MoCA (neither does the base Roamio if I’m not mistaken?), but yes it indeed does have the requisite QAM tuner needed for cable tuning.

    Hence the very reason for my question about the Edge for Antenna.


    Exactly!
     
  2. Oct 9, 2019 #1002 of 1057
    CIR-Engineering

    CIR-Engineering Video Calibration & Electronics Repair Engineer

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    TiVo has been working on a USB. ATSC 3.0 tuner.

    TiVo Demos ATSC 3.0 Network Tuner To Retrofit Existing DVRs

    While I agree ATSC 3.0 has probably shot its self in the foot on many levels and without a mandate...

    I hope it does work out because better reception alone is enough for me to hope. No more multipath problems.

    craigr
     
  3. Oct 9, 2019 #1003 of 1057
    aaronwt

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    They can support over 12 read/write streams. Including the internal tuners being written to the hard drive.

    Sent from my Galaxy S10
     
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  4. Oct 9, 2019 #1004 of 1057
    krkaufman

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    The Roamio OTA is a poor starting point for expecting an EDGE for OTA to have hidden CableCARD capabilities, for the reasons you cited. They took a current box with both and just removed the CableCARD bracket to “create” the Roamio OTA. It would be exceedingly surprising for the EDGE for OTA to have hidden QAM functionality, both because of the additional costs for hardware superfluous to an OTA-only DVR and because they’d properly stripped-down the BOLT OTA before its release, similarly also snuffing MoCA along with the QAM tuners.
     
  5. Oct 9, 2019 #1005 of 1057
    BillyClyde

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    It’s still worth asking the question though. :)

    Most (if not all) tuners for ATSC also tune QAM, so it isn’t a stretch.

    Thanks, I didn’t know that about Bolt OTA so that helps clarify the picture some, but it’s still worth a two minute gander at the bottom of an Edge for Antenna from a new owner to see what’s there and possible. That’s all I’m asking. Until then it’s all speculation.
     
  6. Oct 9, 2019 #1006 of 1057
    krkaufman

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    Totally concur; I just wanted to reset your expectations and try to relate the relevance of the previous posts citing the BOLT OTA, which arguably shifts the neighborhood in which the speculation should reside.
     
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  7. Oct 9, 2019 #1007 of 1057
    snerd

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    Well, there's also the fact that the feature list for the cable Edge includes MoCA while the feature list for OTA Edge excludes MoCA, tracking with the corresponding Bolt boxes. This isn't completely conclusive since early release documentation for TiVo products is traditionally full of typos.
     
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  8. Oct 9, 2019 #1008 of 1057
    BillyClyde

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    True but the Roamio OTA also didn’t have MoCA.
     
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  9. krkaufman

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    This misses the attempted point.

    As you stated, the comparable 4-tuner Roamio also lacked MoCA, so the Roamio OTA lacking MoCA isn’t an indicator of altered electronics. However, for both the BOLT and EDGE series, the OTA-only units are the only models lacking MoCA, an indication that more was done in producing the OTA-only version than simply removing a CableCARD bracket.

    We’ll see; just seemed like you still weren’t understanding why people were offering the BOLT OTA as a more relevant starting point for speculation than the Roamio OTA.
     
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  10. CubsWin

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    This question has probably been answered before, but does the Edge for cable also simultaneously support OTA? Or is it cable only?
     
  11. krkaufman

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    With the EDGE series “for XXX” means exclusively for use with that source type; there is currently no EDGE capable of switching between either.
     
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  12. krkaufman

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    Interesting nugget from TiVo_Ted...
     
  13. buildersboy66

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    EDGE for cable at 47 ODT. 76 in house.
     
  14. JoeKustra

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    Well, they tried. :( Of course, we don't know what it is measuring. Keep an eye on the air intake.
     
  15. okay_see

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    I wonder if the new Edge will allow for ethernet connection via a switch and not necessitate a direct connection to the router?
     
  16. Mikeguy

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    :p *

    * If, by any chance, the measurement is similar to that on the Bolt platform, 47 ODT is pretty good, in the neighborhood of what Bolt box owners often report after taking further cooling measures. Of course, who knows what it means in the end practically, if anything.
     
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  17. longrider

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    I am not sure what you are referring to other than an occasional uninformed instruction from a CSR. My Bolt runs through 2 switches to get to the internet and even the 4 ports on the back of the router is a switch
     
  18. cherry ghost

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    Anyone want to open theirs up to see what drive is being used?
     
  19. buildersboy66

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    no need to open
     
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  20. okay_see

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    Yes, the 4 ports on the router is technically a switch, but I've NEVER been able to successfully keep network connections up with Roamios or minis when connected to a stand-alone switch. Tivo support (back when they were quality) informed me that they needed to be directly connected to router for ethernet cable option. They were right. Not sure if this was resolved with Bolts. I switched units over to Moca to avoid the issue.
     

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