TiVo Edge (Series 7 DVR for Cable)

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Good question. However, I don't know.

 

Per recent clarification from @TiVo_Ted, the answer is "neither Roamios or eligible BOLTs (i.e. excluding the BOLT OTA) will be blocked from rollback to TE3, per current TiVo planning." (link)

 

So,................when is this Tivo Edge suppose to release? Something so weird about Tivo and their complete dysfunction when it comes to their ability to rationalize their marketing and product releases. It is sort of weird.

 

Presumably, soon--one forum member already received an Edge box, as a warranty replacement for a Bolt box. Great TiVo Customer Service

 

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The Channels DVR app using TVE as your tuner does this.

 

Sort of -- it records from the TV Everywhere site for each channel, rather than from the OTT service, which is just used for authorization (cable and satellite can also be used for auth). Not every channel is available, and the quality varies.

 

What’s the difference? TVE is still OTT, and it’s the same stream that’s being accessed to aggregate them all together via those OTT services such as PS Vue, SlingTV, etc. if I’m not mistaken.

The quality has been great, even better than the QAM cable tuner equivalent on pretty much all occasions.

 

You're mistaken. PQ on a service like YouTubeTV can be substantially better than the same channel via its TV Everywhere stream. (I'm not saying it's always that way; again, it's highly variable.) The reverse is also possible, although I haven't seen that with YTTV so far.

That's great, but definitely not my experience. I will say, it's not hard to beat the QAM PQ of a service like Comcast, which maxes out at 720p and offers many channels only in 480i. Nevertheless, some of the TVE channels actually failed to rise to that baseline, IME.

 

I’m not mistaken in my case. I have PSVue, Spectrum and just recently cancelled DirecTV, all of which I have been able to compare with Channels DVR with TVE on AppleTV. I stand by my assessment.

Of course I agree your experience could be different.

 

Not about PQ -- you're mistaken in saying "it's the same stream that’s being accessed to aggregate then all together via those OTT services". It's not. The OTT services have different sources for the channels than what the TVE sites provide (typically, I think, much higher-quality sources), which they then reencode (possibly downscaling) to meet their own needs.

Of course, it's the same source at some point -- way upstream -- but the TVE and OTT versions of the channel that we can access were encoded separately.

 

Ordered one today (399.00 for cable model), be here Friday so we will see how this new unit stacks up. They made me buy a monthly plan with it during ordering. So does each DVR need a monthly fee? I already have a plan with my Bolt. When you order it at top of page its says 4 tuners, even those rest of website says 6. Who knows which is right. Guess I will find out. for 399.00 it better have 6 tuners!

 

It's possible they will sell both a 4 tuner and 6 tuner cable model, with the six tuner not for sale yet.

After you get the Edge up and running, transfer shows from the Bolt, then cancel the Bolt and replace it with a Mini.

 

It's possible they will sell both a 4 tuner and 6 tuner cable model, with the six tuner not for sale yet.

The 6 tuner model is for sale. There is no 4 tuner cable model. Only a 6 tuner.

 

OTA model for antenna only has 4 tuners. Needs a TiVo subscription. Does not work with cable Tv.

 

Once again they leave Frontier cable card hotline number out.

 

I was going by this fact on the order page, as stated by seaninde, just guessing why they stated 4 tuner cable model.

"When you order it at top of page its says 4 tuners,"

 

Go to Tivo orders page and see what your order states.

 

Its is moderately disappointing that the 4 tuner version doesn't support cable as well....

 

Anybody been able to find a comparison between the Bolt and Edge to see if it's worth upgrading?

 

Is this model fan-less? I don't see any vent openings on the back of it, shown on the CNET article.