TiVo Edge (Series 7 DVR for Cable)

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    Joe3

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    Before the same group of people with magical knowledge start telling everyone else what everyone else thinks, I always raise an eyebrow and and cold chill runs down my back whenever I hear some speaking for the masses and telling me what the masses do or think. Historically, they are always been a bunch of asses.
     
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    NashGuy

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    Yeah. But that's kind of the nature of mature tech platforms, right? And both the iPhone and TiVo are mature platforms. Hard to do much more than make slight improvements with each new model that comes out. All the big stuff has already been accomplished.
     
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    trip1eX

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    Ok, but I wasn't wondering why we are only getting slightly better versions. ;)
     
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    BigJimOutlaw

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    If it did anything particularly new, one would think they would have promoted it on that leaked retail packaging or whatever that was. DV and Atmos are cool but... that's not much. It's practically a basic cost of entry for new electronics.

    We'll see what happens.
     
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    Mikeguy

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    Would be a good occasion to bring out (for retail sale) the Mini Wireless Adapter and the streaming device apps. :)
     
  6. Sep 10, 2019 #726 of 1057
    trip1eX

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    There you go. Maybe wireless streaming to MInis and Roku and AppleTV from my DVR is the big new thing for my tv.
     
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    mschnebly

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    Do you think it is possible the Edge could also do IPTV AND Cablecard? I guess not since it's service provider dependent. I honestly cant imagine what some big new thing might be with it. I guess the audio formats + ???
     
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    OrangeCrush

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    Anything's possible, but supporting any given cable company's IPTV implementation is going to require that company (or at least its technology provider) to play ball and open up about the details of the implementation and they haven't exactly been forthcoming with that information. They like the rental revenue from the boxes they provide.

    For those companies that deploy TiVos themselves, they're going with the android-based cloud-dvr boxes.

    There's no technical reason why it couldn't be supported, but the political and bureaucratic hurdles make me think it's unlikely.
     
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    slowbiscuit

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    But but but, Tivo_Ted said they're working with Comcast on IPTV!!! o_O

    Someday. And it was first announced FOUR YEARS AGO. :oops:
     
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    cwoody222

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    Bloomberg TV is running an item on their ticker that said something like “TiVo CEO wants to make up ground from streaming” but I can’t find details/interview yet.

    But he must have spoken to someone today.

    Edit: Found it:

    Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

    “Later this month, TiVo plans to announce new international customers, and in October it will unveil a new product, TiVo Plus, that better integrates new streaming services with the company’s core TV console. After that, Shull said he’d like to design a more unified interface for the company’s 22 million customers and seek additional sources of revenue other than monthly subscriptions, such as advertising.”
     
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    lucidrenegade

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    I'm surprised we haven't seen anything more on the Edge, since Cedia started today.
     
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    BigJimOutlaw

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    It could happen at anytime, but the exhibit hall opens on Thursday.
     
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    cwoody222

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    They could be staying away from the Apple announcements today. To avoid being overshadowed.
     
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    Unfortunately they are many years late. Fours years ago, when the Bolt Launched, they were ahead of the game. But within the next year or two they were quickly surpassed by everyone.

    It sounds like it might be too late for them to makeup for their streaming offerings. I know it is with me. I had moved on years ago to other devices that ran circles around the TiVos with streaming UHD/HDR content.

    Of course TiVo still runs circles around most other devices when you are talking about DVR recordings. Which is all I use my TiVos for now. And I barely use it for that much any more. Since I'm mostly using it to watch news broadcasts. And using streaming services to watch other content.

    But that has to do with the lousy video quality from FiOS and from OTA in the DC area. If that video quality was still great, I would still be using my TiVos to watch most of my broadcast content.
     
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    jimpmc

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    It seems like they have the right idea with the Cable MSO boxes -- combining TiVo DVR and Android TV for streaming apps. Put that together with more universal searches across other content providers (HBO Go, Starz, Showtime, etc.) and it would be a great combination. Right now, it's still hard to find a program across many streaming services. Using Android TV allows the app developers to develop for many devices.
     
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    Joe3

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    Maybe I was linked to a different article. I read the following:

    "The shares reflect all those troubles. After soaring early in this decade, they have declined for years. The stock traded at $8.20 Tuesday in New York, down almost 13% for 2019."

    These few written sentences suggest they were not ahead of the game when the Bolt launched. The TiVo troubles began earlier than the Bolt, a lack luster product, along with TE4 that didn't bring anything new except for a new look that did not help and has been rightly argued as hurting the brand further. :)
     
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    NashGuy

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    Yeah, as OrangeCrush said, it just seems unlikely that we're going to see any retail TiVos that support closed IPTV systems. I think the biggest improvements that the Edge will bring are Dolby Vision HDR and Dolby Atmos audio plus built-in Alexa. (Or does the Bolt Vox already have Alexa on board?)
     
  18. Sep 10, 2019 #738 of 1057
    NashGuy

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    "TiVo Plus"? Is this an error in the article and should instead read "TiVo Edge"?

    Or does TiVo Plus refer to the new TiVo apps that will (supposedly) soon debut for Apple TV, Fire TV, Android TV and Roku? Those apps would, in fact, help integrate streaming services (or, specifically, streaming devices) with the core TiVo DVR. But if they've come up with a special branding for that new app platform, does that imply that there could be an associated service (i.e. fee) required to use the apps? Might you have to pay a couple bucks per month for TiVo Plus to extend access to your DVR into your streaming devices? Or has it been confirmed to us that usage of these new apps will be free?
     
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    aaronwt

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    I'm talking about streaming services and UHD/HDR capability. They were ahead of the competition. And the Bolt was HDR capable as well as UHD. But they didn't even enable HDR until years later. By then, everyone else had HDR plus more streaming services that offered UHD and HDR.
     
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    Joe3

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    Could be over thinking, but my mind went with TiVo app stand alone with some sort of bundling for paid subscriptions and TiVo app free connected to the home TiVo device for those already paying monthly or lifetime.
     
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