TiVo Edge (Series 7 DVR for Cable)

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  1. Jul 12, 2019 #381 of 1057
    NashGuy

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    I think that's right.

    Simplest answer: because the TiVo Edge isn't going to run Android TV.
     
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  2. Jul 12, 2019 #382 of 1057
    OrangeCrush

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    Does the Android version of their stack even do local DVR stuff? Or is it really just a streaming cable app w/ a Tivo UI papered over it?
     
  3. Jul 12, 2019 #383 of 1057
    Dan203

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    Maybe, but there is some circumstantial evidence that it's at least possible it could be Android TV. Including some comments by TiVo employees at this years CES. So I'm still holding out hope.

    Android TV has a built in DVR API. I'm not sure how robust it is, or if TiVo would actually want to use it, but it's possible they could.

    The current Android TV offering by TiVo uses an external DVR like a cloud DVR or IP VOD style. There is no internal DVR functionality. So we don't know yet how, or even if, it'll work.
     
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  4. Jul 12, 2019 #384 of 1057
    Bigg

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    There probably are some older cars still listening. Don't forget about boats and RVs and such.
     
  5. Jul 12, 2019 #385 of 1057
    tarheelblue32

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    I'm sure there are a few after 15 years, but not many. They would be relatively insignificant as a source of revenue. And if you absolutely just have to have your satellite radio in your 16-year-old boat, you can always pay to have the satellite radio replaced. It's not like it's impossible to do.
     
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  6. Jul 12, 2019 #386 of 1057
    foghorn2

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  7. Jul 12, 2019 #387 of 1057
    Dan203

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    They could give plenty of notice. Just send out letters and emails saying... "we're discontinuing support for XM only radios starting next year, if you have one of these radios you'll need to upgrade to continue service". (I'm not sure which one is actually better Sirius or XM, so not sure which one they would keep in a transition)
     
  8. Jul 12, 2019 #388 of 1057
    tarheelblue32

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    From what I've read, XM is the better technology, but regardless they should have just picked one and gone with it after the merger.
     
  9. Jul 12, 2019 #389 of 1057
    PSU_Sudzi

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    I have the stock Sirius radio in my 2010 Wrangler Unlimited JK but why should I replace it, it does everything I need? I’m sure many boat and RV owners have similar feelings.
     
  10. Jul 12, 2019 #390 of 1057
    ej42137

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    Perhaps you haven't been following; you would want to replace it to keep receiving broadcasts, if and when the service changes. Just like we TiVo users might want to buy a Roku when TiVo stops updating their guide.
     
  11. Jul 13, 2019 #391 of 1057
    tarheelblue32

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    The point was that if it no longer functioned because SiriusXM had shut down the Sirius satellite broadcasts at some point after the merger, then you might have been inclined to replace it.
     
  12. Jul 13, 2019 #392 of 1057
    PSU_Sudzi

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    No I get that, I just don’t think there is a demand for even more satellite programming or increase in quality to necessitate SiriusXM shutting down the old system.
     
  13. Jul 13, 2019 #393 of 1057
    Bigg

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    The idea was that they would keep both, new radios would do both, but they could de-duplicated the programming and either add more programming or use higher bitrates or some combination of the two. Of course, they could also have gone that route, and then duplicated a "core" package of content, with some other content only available on one or the other, and de-duplicated over time so that people with old radios would lose some but not all content. There's various ways to slice and dice it.
     
  14. Jul 13, 2019 #394 of 1057
    tarheelblue32

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    Well I can give you one example that has directly impacted me before. There are lots of college football games that SiriusXM has the rights to broadcast the audio feed to, but because of lack of bandwidth they aren't able to broadcast all the ones they have the rights to. It has resulted in me not being able to listen to the games I want to hear on more than one occasion.

    And in regards to audio quality, people complain all the time about the audio quality of satellite radio because of the over-compression. When satellite radio first came out, they advertised it as "CD-quality audio", and it certainly can be when they don't limit the bitrate. But they've crammed so many channels into their limited bandwidth that audio quality on many of their channels has suffered. Shutting down the Sirius side and re-purposing that bandwidth would solve those problems.
     
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  15. Jul 14, 2019 #395 of 1057
    PSU_Sudzi

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    For whatever its worth, I upgraded my Wrangler to the Sirius All Access Plan and it still does not have MLB radio (Channel 89 on my XM units) and all of my XM units with the max package do not have NFL radio, very odd.
     
  16. Jul 15, 2019 #396 of 1057
    pj1983

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    Chicken and the egg, sort of. The factory Sirius radio in my 2005 Chrysler doesn't get all the channels (I mentioned this in the SiriusXM pricing thread) so I have no incentive to turn it on. If Chrysler or SiriusXM made a drop-in replacement for the satellite portion of the system, I'd consider buying it. Otherwise, I'm stuck with a forklift upgrade of the entire factory system to an aftermarket system using the generic satellite adapter SiriusXM sells, or I can use an external plug-in unit with the existing stock radio. The former is too much work and the latter looks awful, so Sirius ends up losing a subscription. Maybe that's the intent, as you point out, just as TiVo is trying to get everyone to move to Bolts through a variety of incentives.

    To the OP's original point and topic, I'm not sure I'll be buying a series 7 when it's released. I already put too much work into the TiVo ecosystem, for something that's supposed to be "plug and play".
     
  17. Jul 17, 2019 #397 of 1057
    Davelnlr_

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    I have a Sirius in dash, and an XM portable MP3i. I listen to the in dash during the free weeks, but I can honestly say, while driving around town, The Sirius radio blanks out and says Acquiring Satellite at least 3 times in my 15 minute drive home, whereas my XM portable NEVER blanks out except if I get stopped at a red light under a bridge. So, I never even considered subscribing to Sirius with that radio.
     
  18. Jul 18, 2019 #398 of 1057
    BigJimOutlaw

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    Tivo Edge name has been trademarked in the past week.

    Also on record is a Tivo Bridge Plus -- Guessing that's a bonded 2.0 moca adapter.

    (apptivo entry is not for tivo.)

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    krkaufman

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    Makes sense. Likely a rebranded Actiontec ECB6200; as Actiontec doesn’t appear to be offering the ECB6000, anymore.
     
  20. Jul 18, 2019 #400 of 1057
    gemini929

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    TIVO ENHANCED?
     
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