Tivo Edge First Impressions

Discussion in 'TiVo Edge' started by seaninde, Oct 12, 2019.

  1. seaninde

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    So I got my Tivo Edge This week. It was already activated for me on my account.

    I have been watching programming for a day and comparing picture/sound to my Bolt & Comcast Motorola DVR on my Sony OLED A9g TV's (55" & 77")

    I was excited for the Edge because of the 6 tuners and hopefully quieter unit, plus the extra video upgrades like Dolby Vision, etc.

    These are my personal impressions and decisions so no comments on anything you disagree with. Its just a review.

    1. Design - I have no issue with the design. The double stack design is about the same size as my Bolt. The edge is a little shorter but a little wider than Bolt so it evens out. It has no functional purpose I can see from the outside. Edit - I did see vents under the edge that overlaps on top, so may have some air flow functionality in new case design.

    2. Finish - Piano Black. I hate piano black. They look like crap after a day with dust and when you wipe it they show scratches immediately. I don't like piano black on anything. Don't know why manufacturers keep using it. But if your unit gets hidden in a cabinet I guess its not a big deal.

    3. Noise - The Edge is significantly quieter than my Bolt. No high pitched sound all the time, but it is not silent. It does sound like a cheap PC fan running all the time. In a normal room with activity you won't hear it at all, but in a silent room (like reading a book, sleeping, nap, etc.) it is not silent. But much more improved.

    4. Setup - setup went as expected. Same multiple downloads to get it up and running. When I finally had it ready to watch live TV, it gave me an error saying all 6 tuners were in use (are you kidding me?). After unplugging it 3 times it finally worked. Not sure what that was all about.

    5. TE4 - I have no issue with this as it is all I have ever known. Worked fine.

    6. Picture/Sound Quality - this is where my biggest expectations were for getting this unit. My comcast Motorola Unit gives a super crystal clear picture on my A9G. The only reason I want to replace it, is it has 2 tuners only and an ancient program guide. So I thought this was the ticket.

    I first did a compare of the picture with my Bedroom TV where the Bolt lives. I compared multiple channels and recordings. I watch the Daily show nightly and know how rich the colors are of the set and clarity with the Bolt. The edge fell short. The colors were off, almost muted. I even ran the recording from the Bolt through the edge and still same issue. When I got my Bolt I hooked it up and had to do no TV picture adjustments. The edge is going to make me have to redo my TV settings and recalibrate my TV and I am not sure that would even fix it. So I then went down to the living room to compare to my Motorola box. Same issue with colors but also the picture on the Edge is soft compared to my Motorola box, just not crystal clear.

    The sound also was not the same for some reason. The A9G's have built in subwoofers that give rich low end sound. It was not the same, I noticed that immediately. There are really no settings in Tivo to adjust for picture or sound except the HDR and Dolby Sound and those were the same as the Bolt.

    7. Remote - Cable Edge owners do not get Lux, lighted remote. Even though we are paying 50.00 more for Edge Cable than OTA, which does get it. That made me mad. I would think higher price gets better equipment.

    8. Plan Cost - Edge Cable charged double than Edge OTA for monthly plan - another kick in the groin.

    Final Decision-
    Because the edge is not getting me anything more improved than my Bolt (picture I feel is actually worse), the fact that for Sony TV's the Dolby Vison does not work yet (Tivo may do a fix later), the soft picture, Cable owners get cheated with old remote and double plan cost and charged 50.00 more for unit itself, I have decided the Edge is not for me. I can wait for the Bolt to be blown out at a much cheaper price and get another one of those at Best Buy.

    Maybe in future if Tivo does some improvements.

    I am not sure if these units are made by someone else than the Bolt was, but the picture difference was a deal breaker for me on top of the high cost.

    Sorry Tivo.
     
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  2. geekmedic

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    I just opened mine last night but haven't had a chance to set it up. Disappointing reading about the picture quality and no lighted remove. @TiVo_Ted What's up with the remote? Why would TiVo include a lighted remote for OTA but not cable version?
     
  3. Wigohwt

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    Only a guess, but possibly due to current manufacturing constraints. Maybe the Lux remote will become standard in the future.
     
  4. mishafp

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    I am not apples to apples because I'm upgrading from TiVo Roamio, but I'm really liking my Edge. All of the Apps are must faster, I don't have to have the bulky Roamio AND external hard-drive to have the record room, etc. Maybe I'm not sufficiently visual, but I can't tell the display difference between either of the TIVOs or the AT&T DVR that I had to have for 6 months before my new building allowed Comcast in, and I could switch back to TIVO.

    And, of course, most importantly it is TIVO, which means DVR experience itself is fantastic, which is the most important thing.
     
  5. rbronco21

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    I keep hearing about picture quality and I don't get it. It's a digital copy that gets output to the TV. Shouldn't it look the same no matter the box? Is the issue only showing up on HDR TVs? Maybe it's an HDR issue. Can HDR be disabled to test? On my Roamio, I have it output everything at its native resolution. Is that possible with the Edge? I'd guess your TV would be much better at upscaling and processing the signal.
     
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  6. BigJimOutlaw

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    How the CPU processes the video output can differ. Some folks were saying Bolts had a soft image, and the Roamio had a legit bug with bottom field first encoding causing it to swap fields (which got fixed). It's one of those things where some will notice it more than others but it's worth investigating at least.
     
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  7. Bobby-Tivo

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    You can turn Auto HDR off in the video settings menu. I don't like it myself, the color changes way too much. Even the Tivo menu colors are "too rich" or something. It's a big difference when you toggle it off.

    You can also adjust the resolution to your liking, you don't have to run it at 4K.
     
  8. rbronco21

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    So does the regular HD picture change when you turn off HDR? An HDR menu would be pretty bright.
     
  9. Bobby-Tivo

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    Yeah, everything on screen changes, the picture and the menus. I actually had to readjust/re-calibrate my TV settings because it was just too much. I got it to where it was fine but the color RED was still just too much. When I found the HDR toggle switch in settings (it wasn't there yesterday, it must've been put there by an update last nite) I turned it off and returned my settings back to normal and it looks SO MUCH BETTER.
     
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  10. rbronco21

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    Sounds like HDR isn't ready, but hopefully they get it worked out.
     
  11. mattyro7878

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    Your built in tv subwoofers satisfy your bass needs?? How can that be possible? They must go down to at least 100hz. Not exactly room shaking.
     
  12. geekmedic

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    I think the picture is a little sharper than with my Bolt+. This is why HDR off. HDR on screws up the colors and menus.
     
  13. philslc

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    My Edge OTA did not include the lighted remote.
     
  14. philslc

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    Got the Edge OTA installed and noticed it did not find all the channels that are available on my Bolt. Checking antenna signal strength shows Edge only about half what the Bolt shows. Both units are connected to the same outdoor Yagi antenna.
    Looks like my new Edge is going back.
     
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  15. TKnight206

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    Your Comcast box is probably using Gracenote for guide data, so that's an upside in my opinion. Also, those legacy Comcast DVRs probably have a lot of sound options. One thing I miss is being able to mute TV with the press of a button. No need to mess with the volume adjustment on my headphones.
     
  16. seaninde

    seaninde Member

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    No they are not room shaking, but they are very rich, full bass, low end. These Master series TV's have the speakers built into the TV screen itself. Then on the back they have 2 full subwoofers. These are not like most TV's that just have down firing speakers at bottom of the TV, its a whole other level. This is what Sony does on the top tier TV's (and why the prices are ridiculous). The sound is awesome and does not require a sound bar. Full Rich and tons of low end. My original 900A had 6 speakers on front and 2 huge subwoofers in back. Same deal with awesome sound without having to get a sound bar.
     
  17. seaninde

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    That's interesting as everyone was saying it came with Lux remote. Was that listed on website?
     
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  18. seaninde

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    Well the settings on my Bolt are same as the Edge, so HDR is set to Auto for both. Resolution set to Auto on both. But picture is way off for Edge, so not sure where I am going wrong. I would have to recalibrate my TV's. I am just not seeing the justification for a 400.00 price tag at this point when I can get another Bolt at half the cost.
     
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  19. seaninde

    seaninde Member

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    Does anyone know what company made the Bolt? Was it also Arris? My Bolts colors are spot on.
     
  20. Bobby-Tivo

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    Same company, Arris.
     

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