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Tivo ... do Wishlists right!

Discussion in 'TiVo Suggestion Avenue' started by Furmaniac, May 18, 2018.

  1. bobfrank

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    Another thing they don't do is read the Tivo Community forums. Sometimes an employee will take an interest to read and post here, but I don't believe that's official policy from Tivo.
     
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  2. Furmaniac

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    They have their own forum and when I have something important to say, I post both here and there. Allegedly, they read their own forums but very infrequently. Doesn't TiVo Ted work for TiVo?
     
  3. Lurker1

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    Originally, the auto-record default WAS no. At some point they changed it. I liked Wishlists more before the change.
     
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  4. bobfrank

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    Yes, TivoTed does work for Tivo. He's one of those rare Tivo employees who take an interest in what goes on here sometimes. TivoMargaret did so before him.

    Even though Ted, and any Tivo employees, may be here unofficially they are very much appreciated.
     
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  5. TiVoEvan74

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    What is going on with Wishlists?

    I set up a Do Not Record Wishlist — of Science and Nature shows — and it's been recording some of them! I reviewed my other wishlists to see any of them could have caught the show, but nothing applied.

    Plus, in the To Do list and Show Conflicts screen, many shows from the Do Not Record Wish List show up. Weirdly, a show will shown with a red X next to it and when I check using Info, it says that “Will Not Record Conflicts with 4 shows! When I look at what the shows are, they include shows that are NOT scheduled to record, but are part of the Do Not Record Wishlist.

    This is really bad design. It also makes me wonder whether the incorrect listings could actually block shows that should be recorded.

    Making matters worse, there's no way I could find to delete the shows with the red Xs. Even deleting the wishlist or rearranging the One Pass list made no difference.

    TiVo really needs to fix all this!
     
  6. pfiagra

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    If you read through this thread, you will learn that there is a flaw in the wishlist creation logic. By default, the wishlist is created as an Auto Record Wishlist (ARWL) before you can change the setting to not record. This erroneous WL behavior appeared sometime a few years ago, IIRC.

    What this means is that your To Do List (TDL) was populated to record the ARWL hits before you “changed” the WL to not record.

    Someone in this thread wrote that the TDL will eventually correct itself. That has not been my experience, so the simple thing is to delete the scheduled shows from the TDL before they record.

    My preemptive workaround, as I wrote about in this thread, is to always create a WL with a nonsense word (to not generate any hits), change the WL to not record, then fix the WL by deleting the nonsense word.
     
  7. TonyD79

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    Mine cleans up the recordings but not the conflicts. I believe the issue stated above was conflicts that don’t have a conflict. That is consistent with what I’ve seen.
     
  8. Furmaniac

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    There are so many other Wishlist problems. I have a wishlist with a financial expert named Clark Howard in it, but it records programs with Dick Clark and other Clarks in it. There are show hosts listed in the cast but the shows won't record when you put that name in the wishlist. I have documented many of these bugs in the TiVo Suggestions area of their website, but I wonder if they have any intention on fixing any of this.
     
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  9. Lurker1

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    Doubtful. Many of us have been reporting these same bugs for years already, with no change.
     
  10. TiVoEvan74

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    What's especially bad is that the Roamio continues to record these shows even after one delete the Wishlist entirely!

    As I was experimenting with all this, I twice entered a Science and Nature wishlist and, so, now I get TWO folders, identical, for Science and Nature!

    It's ridiculous!

    This is worse than a bug, it's a defect!

    Note: THE SHOWS DO NOT SHOW UP IN MY TO DO LIST AT ALL!
     
  11. Furmaniac

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    After the shows from the older wishlist or watched that older wishlist will disappear
     
  12. TiVoEvan74

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    I wasn't quite sure what you were saying — there seems to be a word missing.

    But I think you mean what I discovered, which is that if one deletes the final show from one list, both lists will vanish. That's fine, but it doesn't explain why it's recording for two wishlists, when both have been deleted, and none of the shows appear in the To Do list!

    I guess I'll hunt up a feedback form for TiVo and refer them to this thread. They really need to fix one of their prime features —even if they want to abandon it, they should at least turn off auto-recording so that it stops the bug from happening!
     
  13. dfreybur

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    I once noticed a bundled wish list. I think they are called collections. Academy Award movies by year. I selected it and added it to my One Pass list. Two years later it never once recorded even a single movie. I can not imagine a two year period were no channel ever plays any Academy Award winning movies. I see those in the schedule at least monthly.

    Worse, it never once listed a single movie as a streaming option. Yet I entered the collection at least a year before Tivo's merged catalog rotted and fell off the tree.

    I deleted the collection this week.

    Yet I noticed something hilarious on the to-do list. My wife entered a wish list for Doris Day movies. It recorded a talk show with a guest who had Doris Day as a part of their full name. Chortle.
     
  14. Jonathan_S

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    Can't remember if I mentioned this, but I have a partially invisible wishlist.

    I create a wishlist for Marvel movies - put the ones I wanted in by title with all of them set as optional keyword (thumbs up to put parenthesis around the keywords after creating them). Mostly just to have them grouped in a named folder in the Now Playing list for easy access. Well at some point something when weird, the couple movies I'd already recorded under this wishlist stopped appearing in the folder and were just listed as standalone entries in Now Playing. Even weirder the wishlist can't be found anymore under wishlists, it's just not there. If I want to edit it I have to find it's entry in the Season Pass manager and jump from there to updating the wishlist. But any new movies matching the current settings will get recorded and they do appear in the folder in Now Playing.

    So it seems to have been some bizarre one time glitch that partially hid the wishlist and disassociated the earlier recordings from it.
     
  15. Furmaniac

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    Someone had suggested the following and I find it to be true
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    if you make an edit to a program that's in a wishlist to change its "keep" status or its start and end status, it will remove itself from the wishlist folder and become a standalone program on the my shows screen
     
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  16. Jonathan_S

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    Changing keep until on a recorded show doesn't usually, in my experience, move it out of the wishlist folder. But making any edits to it in the ToDo list will prevent it from ever being put into the wishlist folder because it'll convert it from a wishlist recording to a manual recording.

    But I've never (before, or since) seen recorded movies spontaneously move themselves out of the Now Playing folder. (Coincidentally? when that wishlist stopped appears in wishlists and only shows in One Pass Manager)
     
  17. Furmaniac

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    ... and with auto record off, the shows do not go into the wishlist folder. I want them to go into that folder.
     
  18. TiVoEvan74

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    The biggest issue with automatic recording is that it will record *everything* that matches the Wish List. That could include lots of junk that you don't want -- and it could, depending on your TiVo, quickly eat up most of your valuable free space!
     
  19. TonyD79

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    I often use wishlists as a better and storable search. Like I have a wishlist for movies made in the last few years. Hard to do as a search and i sure as heck don’t want to record them all.

    I also have one for college football and other sports.
     

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