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Tivo Desktop - video not playing

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by sneagle, Nov 7, 2007.

  1. greg_burns

    greg_burns Now in HD

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    When you play a .tivo file in WMP and do a File->Properties, what do you see?

    These are the ones that were installed by Cole2K and work for me...

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    I would find the audio/video codecs your are currently using in DSF and lower their merit values to 0 and/or raise the InverVideo ones to a higher value.
     
  2. sneagle

    sneagle Addicted Member TCF Club

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    I will try. Two questions...
    - Do I need to elevate the priority of the codecs I want to use?
    - Do I need to re-boot after making the changes?
     
  3. greg_burns

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    Not really sure, but I think yes to both.
     
  4. greg_burns

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    I just lowered my InterVideo to 00200000 "DO NOT USE". It took a reboot before it effected WMP.
     
  5. sneagle

    sneagle Addicted Member TCF Club

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    You rock.

    Although here is how I got it to work.

    First, I installed even possible codec I could find that was recommended. I bought Roxio Creator 10.

    That did not work.

    Tonight, I elevated InterVideo and lowered Elecard (I think that is what it was) and rebooted. No go.

    WMP still showed Elecard. Then I removed Elecard with DirectShow Filter Manager. No reboot.

    NOW IT WORKS!!!

    Awesome.
     
  6. greg_burns

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  7. sneagle

    sneagle Addicted Member TCF Club

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    How long before Tivo figures this one out and posts info about fixing it on their website. FYI, Elecard is found in the Tivo Desktop Plus directory.

    I have version 1.15.001428.061031
     
  8. greg_burns

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    Wonder if it isn't used as part of Plus and transcoding to other formats. :confused:

    I don't have Plus, so can't do any tests.
     
  9. mackie

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    I am glad to see that I wasn't the only one experiencing whacky problems with that Elecard codec!

    The only thing I should point out is that I was using WMP 10 and my issue really was with the non smooth playback. I was getting audio and picture but it was like the picture had imbibed a massive amount of alcohol. It was just jerky as all heck.

    De-registering this codec was my only hope. I am glad that greg turned me on to the whole Filter Manager idea to begin with.

    I love this forum!
     
  10. Warlern

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    Hi - the downside to removing the Elecard codec is that you won't be able to use TiVo Desktop Plus to convert Tivo files to portable format automatically. It will complain about a convert error until you re-register the Elecard codec. I haven't figured out a workaround. Oh in addition, the image Elecard image scaler is really just part of a chain to the whole DirectShow filters. If you disable that Elecard scaler, it'll just stop sooner in the chain and use the MainConcept MPEG decoder, which is faster but doesn't do any dithering (which apparently is what the scaler does before the video hits your screen).

    Anyway, Tivo has things gimmicked, as far as I can tell, such that tivo files always go through their Desktop Plus codecs, despite what your merit values are set to for your DirectShow filters. I saw a Tivo filter or two actually, so maybe they are somehow affecting things. It's complicated! Oh well, for now I accept that I can't have everything (ability to easily transfer tivo videos to my phone + good PC playback). Sigh.

    Major bummer since the Elecard codec performs poorly on my my system, like many others (it has no hardware acceleration, is the main problem, and you can't even change that even if you can change its codec properties - I tried).
     
  11. cluelesspa

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    OK I had the same problems as many others on here. Brand new TIVO series 3 HD owner!

    anyway installed in XP the Desktop Tivo (Free) software. download a file off the Tivo no problem but no go on ANY media players. I definitely have MPEG codec the Nvidia and one other.

    Well pulled the trigger and did the dreaded Windows Media Player update from 9.x to 11.x player.. I hate updating WMP. I would use WMP Classic if it would work

    anyway the KEY to making it play is go to Windows Media Player: TOOLS>OPTIONS. Click PERFORMANCE TAB. at the bottom CLICK Advanced Button.

    Then UNCHECK the "Use Video Mixing Render" and click Apply! that's it!

    I have all the other boxes check and played around with Direct X Video acceleration box. works either way ... so I have all other boxes except the first three checked (the Mixing Render and the two sub choices which go away after unchecking the main Mixing Render Box)
     
  12. caddyroger

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  14. Dlee

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    I had a similar problem. I on a business trip right now. To prepare, I downloaded a bunch of shows off my tivo to my laptop. After about 4 shows, I had an error and had the "element not found" message. I reinstalled the desktop w/2.6.2 and transfered the other 6 shows. On the long uncomfortable cross country trip, I whipped out my laptop and had WMP 10 crashed each time I tried to play a show. 4 timezone away in a hotel, I tried to fix the problem, I upgraded to WMP 11, downloaded another mpeg2 codec...no joy. In fact the new codec was causing problems with the laptop so I uninstalled it. While I was at it I uninstalled the tivo desktop also. I rebooted the computer and just before I was going to reinstall the desktop, I decided to see if I could play the shows without the desktop. AND I COULD!!! I don't know why and I don't care. I always thought you had to have the tivo desktop to play the shows, but I don't. Properties still show the files as tivo recordings so I don't think they were converted. Anyway, I'm happy now that I got something to watch on the way back home.
     
  15. windracer

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    IIRC, you just need to install TiVo Desktop to get the DirectShow filter. Once that's there you can uninstall TD and still be able to play .TiVo files (as you've seen) because the DirectShow filter is not removed.
     
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  17. winesnob

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    This worked perfectly!!!!
     
  18. Dan203

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    Windows 10 is missing two DS filters required to play .tivo files. An MPEG-2 decoder and a TS demuxer. I installed k-lite but when into expert mode in the installer and only installed those two things. Unchecked everything else and answered no to all other features/offers. Worked like a charm.
     
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  19. Mikeguy

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    For those of us who wouldn't know a TS demuxer from a snowplow, that filter is ? I didn't see it in the following contents list, at least named as such. And I assume that DScaler5 MPEG-2 decoder [version 0.0.6.0 IVTC mod] [x86] would be the needed MPEG-2 decoder? Thanks--

    Contents of K-Lite Mega Codec Pack
     
  20. Dan203

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    I used the LAV decoder and the LAV splitter
     

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