TiVo confirms SDV dongle for 2Q 2008

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  1. Nov 26, 2007 #21 of 456
    mikeyts

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    Ooops--you're right. The announcement didn't mention a fiscal year, so it'd be 2nd quarter of the calendar year. Wishful thinking.
     
  2. Nov 26, 2007 #22 of 456
    mikeyts

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    All Amazon is offering is piss-poor quality SD video, which I never use except to catch up with the occasional missed TV episode. I never have and never would rent a movie from Unbox. Both the cable providers and the premium subscription content providers are starting to offer HD--locally, Cox has a pay HD VOD channel and just added Starz HD On-Demand, both of which would be handy to have. I'm not holding my breath for VOD or IPPV access by dongle, though.
     
  3. Nov 26, 2007 #23 of 456
    pl1

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    Never hurts to let the cablecos THINK there is some real competition with Unbox.
     
  4. Nov 26, 2007 #24 of 456
    bizzy

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    They often seem pretty dumb, but I doubt they are that dumb.
     
  5. Nov 26, 2007 #25 of 456
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    I won't believe this thing will work until I see it with my own eyes. It's still a pretty big leap of faith.
     
  6. Nov 26, 2007 #26 of 456
    Brad Bishop

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    I don't know how many have looked at it but the OnDemand stuff, as seemingly useful as it ought to be, is poorly organized and/or has a pretty bad interface. Back when I had a Comcast DVR I would try to use it and it's like going into a semi-organized library to look for a book you're not aware of.

    Kind of hard to explain. Let's say you want to watch a horror movie but not sure which one, you go to your local Blockbuster and see the 'Horror' sign and know right away where to go. You can then peruse the Horror section in alphabetical order and it works pretty well.

    Now let's say you went to the same store and in the Horror section it had, instead, this ill-advised sub-category tree. So you look at 'Horror' and then see:
    - TBS
    - Classics
    - B&W
    - Thriller
    - USA Network
    - MTV

    and under any of those you'd have a different kind of sub-category tree (reiterating, yeah, just trying to explain how odd it is). So, your actual selections are really hidden until you get down to the lowest part of a branch and then you're given the dozen or so selections that actually (logically?) fit in that branch. You're not sure but want to see what else they have. So you return back up a to the parent branch and then back down and look at the next sub-category list. You keep doing this trying to remember what you may have wanted to see from the previous branches but it's all confusing enough to where you're unlikely to return.

    Oh, and each time you bounce up to the parent branch or down to the child branch takes a few seconds to load. Not horrible if you were just going down one level but when you consider the amount of bouncing you have to do it adds up.

    I don't have a good answer as to how they could make it better as a huge list of titles would be a 'too much information' kind of problem, but, as it is, it's kind of unwieldy/unusable, in my opinion.
     
  7. Nov 26, 2007 #27 of 456
    ldudek

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    ROFLOL. Why is this such a big leap of faith? I don't know why there is any negativity at all. This is great news.:up:
     
  8. Nov 26, 2007 #28 of 456
    AgentMunroe

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    I don't doubt that such a device exists and works somewhere, but what I'm terrified of is

    a) when exactly my local TW affiliate in Rochester is going to be carrying these (I mean, who exactly is going to be making these - I assume Scientific Atlanta and Motorola, which aren't exactly known for being on-the-ball companies here, and don't even get me started on TW), and

    b) considering all the fun I had trying to talk Time Warner into getting CableCARDs, what the hell am I going to have to go through to get one of these from them? It sort of sounds like TiVo's going to be stepping in on our behalf to make sure all TiVo owners who need one get one, which would be helpful, but I'm certainly not counting on that.

    Another, less pressing question - will this work for SDV-only channels, or will I be able to get the local digital simulcasts with this also? I notice the quality on the digital-only channels is much better, and if this would make it possible so that the analog channels (which are broadcast in digital over SDV) could be picked up digitally for the better quality and higher compression ratio, that would be a great bonus.

    Anyway, we've got plenty of time to wait, so I'm not expecting to see any answers anytime soon, but I'm certainly cautiously optimistic. Buying a S3 in Rochester was a bit of a leap of faith, and I'm glad to see there's at least some effort to resolve this.
     
  9. Nov 26, 2007 #29 of 456
    MickeS

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    Glad to see this news. I recently canceled my HD service from TWC since they added several new channels that I wanted to see, but they are all SDV so no go for me, yet I was supposed to pay for the whole HD package. Once this dongle is available, they'll probably get more money from me (unless I've been completely weaned off of the cable offerings by then - there's not much on there I miss anyway).
     
  10. Nov 26, 2007 #30 of 456
    ah30k

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    Talk about ROTFL, when is the last time you saw a 6-month in advance announcement of a product launch date hold true? Do you really think this will come out on time?
     
  11. Nov 26, 2007 #31 of 456
    zaknafein

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    I would agree. The cable companies and CE manufacturers are currently mired in a battle over who will control the UI for bidirectional CCs, the cable headend or the CE device. I highly doubt they'd voluntarily give up that control here.
     
  12. Nov 26, 2007 #32 of 456
    ewilts

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    Until it ships, it's vaporware. Yes, it's extremely promising but it does absolutely nothing for those already affected by the SDV cutovers (thankfully I'm not one of them). For me personally, it's matter of which comes first - this solution, or SDV. As long as this solution is available before SDV hits this area, I'll be happy. If not, having an announced but not-yet-shipping product does me no good.

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  13. Nov 26, 2007 #33 of 456
    ewilts

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    Do we know if this adapter will be made available for free? Or will the cable companies see this as an opportunity to charge us more?
     
  14. Nov 26, 2007 #34 of 456
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    bicker

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    Count on there being a separate rental fee for this adapter.
     
  16. Nov 26, 2007 #36 of 456
    jmpage2

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    Single cable card rental is provided free by many Cable Co's as a 'good faith' item... I suspect they do this to try to demonstrate to the FCC that they are playing nice with CEs like TiVo.

    I don't see that this would be any different... I expect it will be free or have a nominal rental charge.

    Look at it another way.. why would the cable co want to lose a subscriber over their switch to an SDV system? The dongle becomes an appeasement tool to keep those high dollar subscribers.

    I'm really surprised by the negativity. Even if the projected timeframe slips we are still almost certainly looking at some kind of solution to SDV in 2008. Meaning that we didn't make a bad purchasing choice with our TiVo boxes.
     
  17. Nov 26, 2007 #37 of 456
    MickeS

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    TTG/MRV? :)
     
  18. Nov 26, 2007 #38 of 456
    ldudek

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    You forgot eSATA.:)
     
  19. Nov 26, 2007 #39 of 456
    ldudek

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    Wow I don't know what part of the planet you're on but I don't expect it to be free at all at least not with Comcast or TW! A nominal charge is what I'm hoping for.

    Look at it this way. What have they got to lose? Either you pay for the dongle or you use their equipment. And personally I don't plan on giving up my S3.

    Dude, this is the TiVo S3 thread where negativity is king.;)
     
  20. Nov 26, 2007 #40 of 456
    slyone

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    I agree 100%, I just bought an HDTivo this weekend and then started looking around here and found out anout the SDV rollout which is quite heavy now in my area!upstate NY-TWC. Glad to hear the news and will proceed to open and setup this afternoon!
     

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