TiVo Bolt?

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by bradleys, Jul 20, 2015.

  1. Aug 15, 2015 #281 of 1458
    BigJimOutlaw

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    I like e, f, g, i, k. B for the low end is reasonable.

    Most are normal software evolution. They'll happen anyway, though maybe not immediately (so I'm kinda cheating). Assuming Roamio isn't immediately EOL'ed, they don't have to be exclusive to the Bolt either. Also I've suspected a UI refresh for a while, with the removal of HMO/HME features lighting a fire under it, so I'll just continue to own that theory.

    They committed to 4K a year ago, so it shouldn't be dismissed so easily. Other than an unlikely Aereo streaming service, what else would warrant this box? Would they really blow up the Roamio line and re-brand so heavily just to update the low-end boxes? That'd be sad.

    I'll also WAG that the "Pro" looks more agreeable since I don't think MSOs would want to play along with Tivo's branding whimsy.
     
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  2. Aug 15, 2015 #282 of 1458
    Jed1

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    My cable system was testing TiVo and the Arris (Moxi) whole home system and the one supervisor called me and asked me to help him set the TiVo system up. The small label on the back said Pace MG4. I am not certain if it was MG but I am certain of Pace as my system uses the Pace RNG110 and 200.
    They eventually went with the Arris setup. TiVo was to expensive.
     
  3. Aug 15, 2015 #283 of 1458
    BigJimOutlaw

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    Ah, ok I see the confusion. It's the other way around. Pace wasn't making hardware for Tivo, Tivo was/is leasing software to Pace, which we did know about.
     
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  4. Aug 15, 2015 #284 of 1458
    Jed1

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    I am going to agree that the big deal is this is going to be the 4k unit. It will output 4k to a TV and maybe even come loaded with some new 4k apps, especially Netflix.
    That probably means no more app updates for the Premiere and Roamios.
    Maybe the Premiere goes EOL? There is a chart on TiVos website that shows the software version of all their units and it shows the Premieres with HD menus at 20.5.2 and the SD menu at 20.4.6.
    If Pace is the manufacturer I also believe they will go with a 2.5 inch hard drive. Pace uses them in the RNG 200s. The door to replace the HDD is located on the bottom of the unit. The RNG 200 comes with 500GB or 1TB drives.
    The dimensions somebody recently posted almost matches the dimensions of the RNG 200. The shape is different looking at the picture.
     
  5. Aug 15, 2015 #285 of 1458
    Jed1

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    Yea it could be something like that. The box was sent from TiVo and also had some minis and a stream in it.
    It was the stream and minis that through him off so he gave me a call since I was one of the few on the system that use TiVos. I did not need to go up to the office as I talked him though everything on the phone so I never got to see it.

    The last I talked to him he stated it is still sitting in the box in his office as nobody came to claim it. It also appears that the Arris unit did not live up to their expectations as the built in internet and phone modems ended up being disabled.
    And being the Arris unit is headless, has no video outputs, they end up charging the customer for the primary TV to have a client box. He told me it would have been simpler to go with the TiVo.
     
  6. Aug 15, 2015 #286 of 1458
    aaronwt

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    Yes they could use two but as you mentioned it would make it more expensive. Which is why I didn't even consider that as option. Why I would think four tuners is the max they would have for OTA.
     
  7. Aug 16, 2015 #287 of 1458
    series5orpremier

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    Why wouldn't the same or better apps be available for a 4k TV without going through TiVo? There's no content on cable or OTA to warrant a 4k feature, but if they want to have blow out sales to clear out Roamio inventory in order to charge a premium to somebody else for snake oil then bless them.
     
  8. Aug 16, 2015 #288 of 1458
    atmuscarella

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    We have had long threads about this before and I agree that if all TiVo does is bring 4K/UHD streaming to the 4K/UHD table then they are not bringing anything that most 4K TVs don't already have. What TiVo could bring is access to the service that are going to allow 4K downloads. While many(most?) people have good enough Internet for HD streaming that isn't true for 4K/UHD streaming and being able to download it is going to be important until more places build out faster/more reliable Internet. Then of course there is always the 4K Blu-ray disk option which basically none of us think TiVo will do.
     
  9. Aug 16, 2015 #289 of 1458
    TazExprez

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    Could the Bolt be coming out this week or the next?

    I just checked out the TiVo Super Savings Sale website and could not add any of the items to the cart. The website doesn't show any of the items as being sold out. I tried different browsers on my Mac and I tried Safari on the iPad and got the same results. They might be ready to pull this sale and introduce the Bolt, or they could just be having technical difficulties?
     
  10. Aug 16, 2015 #290 of 1458
    dave13077

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    I was able to add the referb Roamio to the cart without issue.
     
  11. Aug 16, 2015 #291 of 1458
    aaronwt

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    I just finished checkout on a Refurb Roamio Basic with Lifetime. I had no issues adding any of the Roamios on sale to the cart.
     
  12. Aug 16, 2015 #292 of 1458
    thefisch

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    Worked for me too. May want to clear your cache and try again or use a different browser. Not that anyone expects the sale to last long.
     
  13. Aug 16, 2015 #293 of 1458
    NashGuy

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    My prediction (OK, WAG) is that TiVo will unveil BOLT on Tues., Aug. 25.

    (I have no inside info, so if you're considering buying a discounted Roamio, don't bank on the Super Sale lasting until then.)
     
  14. Aug 16, 2015 #294 of 1458
    tarheelblue32

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    I seriously doubt TiVo will add 4k streaming apps to this model. If/when TiVo ever does this, I suspect that they will call it the "TiVo 4k". The "4k" moniker already has some marketing cache behind it, the same way that "HD" did when they brought out the "TiVo HD". Since we already know they are calling this the "TiVo Bolt", I think any sort of 4k capabilities on this upcoming model is highly unlikely.
     
  15. Aug 16, 2015 #295 of 1458
    JerryAC

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    I called last week to ask about deactivating a Premiere and HDS3 that I had just re-activated a few days before. I had tried unsuccessfully to get a lifetime on either with other phone calls to Tivo prior to this call. Prior conversations with Tivo informed me that I had to start over with my service history to qualify for lifetime with either box.

    Both of these boxes had been active about 2.5 years ago. I deactivated them when I signed on with Dish. I canceled Dish a few weeks ago, so I wanted a DVR for OTA.

    The $250 lifetime had just appeared on Tivo's web-site, so I figured if I could get a credit of the monthly service fees I just paid to go towards the purchase of a Roamio refurb with lifetime, I would do it. Plus the larger HD and 4 tuners are much better than either the Premiere or HDS3

    I must have gotten the right guy, because he offered $99 lifetime on both boxes. I took him up on the Premiere, but not the HD. I then ordered a refurb Roamio for $49.99. Since I now have a lifetime Premiere, it qualified the Roamio refurb for the MSD at $12.99 / mo, (not so with a new basic Roamio OTA). I have 30 days to upgrade to lifetime, but not sure I will, as payback approaches 20 months.

    The salesman tried to get me to delay the Roamio purchase if I was planning to go lifetime. He said the sale was going to last into mid September. The 21st I believe. I wanted to get a refurb, so I pulled the trigger, concerned that the refurb would not be in stock when I had the cash for the lifetime later in the month.
     
  16. Aug 16, 2015 #296 of 1458
    TazExprez

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    September 21 is a Monday. The Roamio line was announced on a Tuesday on August 20, 2013, so they might announce the Bolt line on September 22.
     
  17. Aug 16, 2015 #297 of 1458
    NashGuy

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    Hmm. Well, maybe Bolt won't roll out until Sept. It would surprise me a little if it's not before then but it's certainly possible. Also surprises me that a CSR would disclose how long the current Roamio sale will last (or that he would even know), given that the end date isn't stated on the website.

    I based my prediction on the fact that both the original Roamio and the subsequent Roamio OTA were released in late August (just before the start of the fall TV season) and a special upgrade sale for existing customers (advertised via email) is set to end this Wed., Aug. 19. TiVo also likes to roll out new hardware on Tues. or Mon.
     
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  18. Aug 16, 2015 #298 of 1458
    Keen

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    Xboxes do it too.
     
  19. Aug 17, 2015 #299 of 1458
    HarperVision

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    I don't know. The more I read, the more I think Bolt is related with this Charter service, etc.

    http://www.fiercecable.com/story/ch.../2015-08-17?utm_medium=nl&utm_source=internal

    The timing and features seem too coincidental to me.
     
  20. Aug 17, 2015 #300 of 1458
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