TiVo Bolt vs TiVo edge

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by ufo4sale, Jun 4, 2020.

  1. mattyro7878

    mattyro7878 Well-Known Member

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    I dont understand your question. You can buy any type of Tivo off Ebay and set it up with service and you are covered if it blows up. From Tivo specifically I think there are a few Bolt models and Amazon and Weaknees will sell you new or refurbished units. Regardless, once they are added to your Tivo account...no worries. If you meant "what model SHOULD I get?" That is another matter.
     
  2. mattyro7878

    mattyro7878 Well-Known Member

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    Asa far as an upgraded HD. Weaknees has made a strong business of upgrading your Tivos to bigger hard drives as well as selling units with larger hard drives.
     
  3. pfiagra

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    I believe ufo4sale is asking (1) what model will TiVo offer as a replacement, and (2) does the continual care warranty apply if the Roamio was purchased with a HD upgraded by Weaknees (i.e., not an off-the-shelf standard TiVo product).
     
  4. ufo4sale

    ufo4sale Well-Known Member

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    you are 100% right on both accounts.

    I did call TiVo. CSR said that they stopped making Roamio and they no longer have any available for exchange. They did offer me a new edge because at the moment they were out of stock of the Bolt. And I still qualified for the continual care warranty.

    I'm not sure what to do in the moment. I think it makes sense to wait for a lifetime transfer/promotion for the Bolts and stop paying for the Roamio since that has no current value. It would make sense if I had the need for three "new" TiVo's but I don't. Is there something I'm overlooking/missing that I should be thinking about?
     
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  5. tommiet

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    Not that it may matter.. But you would probably get a "used" Edge. Same warranty.... Most the replacements are used units. TiVo likes to use fancy names for used... same difference.

    I think you would be fine with an Edge. Seems a fair trade.
     
  6. ufo4sale

    ufo4sale Well-Known Member

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    It goes back to that "old" debate Bolt v.s. Edge which TiVo would you trust your recordings with?
     
  7. dianebrat

    dianebrat wait.. I did what? TCF Club

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    Not used, refurbished, and yes there is a difference.

    @ufo4sale I and others recommend neither and have suggested a used lifetime Roamio since it has a 3.5" drive over the 2.5" in the Bolt and Edge.
     
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  8. tommiet

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    Still used... You can put lipstick on a pig... still a pig. As TiVo gives customers 30 days to try it out, some were returned with probably no issues. So a reset to default and test, then a new box and packing (lipstick) and its sent out to the next customer.

    Just for you...
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    To put "lipstick on a pig" is an expression used to convey the message that making superficial or cosmetic changes is a futile attempt to disguise the undesirable nature of a product.
     
  9. ufo4sale

    ufo4sale Well-Known Member

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    Why does the different size drive make a difference?
     
  10. dianebrat

    dianebrat wait.. I did what? TCF Club

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    Well that was certainly insulting, thanks for that!
    I will disagree that you think they just recycle returned boxes out to customers, if you've worked in a product-based environment it's common for all units that come in to be shipped to a 3rd party that then goes through the refurbishment process with a series of criteria that must be met and then after that and testing they are sent back to the manufacturer or sales channel plainly marked as refurbished.

    and in regards to our porcine friends, it's also wise to never try and teach a pig to sing, it wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    In general the 3.5" drives are considered more durable, but more so you have a far wider variety of larger than 3TB drives available to use in the units at a lower cost than 2.5" drives.
    Additionally the Roamio's are built like tanks and they seem to last forever with no issues, and while I have not experienced Bolt cooling issues there are plenty of folks that seem to have concerns.
    For me the Roamio is the winner in the "lasts forever" Tivo category.
     
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  11. tommiet

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    Read again...
    The user's Roamia died... So no last forever.

    ALSO... The question was about exchanging a Roamia for an EDGE.. Not a Bolt. I thought that was a nice deal for the user. Trading in the old tank for a new car.
     
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  12. dianebrat

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    I know, and the OP didn't want to fix a MONTHLY Roamio, and I and others recommended a used LIFETIME Roamio which in many of our opinions is a better choice than any Edge in any condition.
    i.e. a used 57 Chevy vs a new Yugo...
     
  13. ufo4sale

    ufo4sale Well-Known Member

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    I’m leaning either towards a Bolt or Edge. Which Tivo has more “problems” associated with it?
     
  14. tommiet

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    You better hide... The Roamio gestapo will come looking for you....

    The Bolts have a cooling issue. I leave off the cover for the cable card and that keeps my temperature down. Just don't place it in a closed cabinet and leave the cable card cover off. The Edge is new and probably has not had enough time to see if has any real issues. I'll bet that cooling is not one of them. TiVo may have learned that lesson from the Bolt. IMO the Edge is just way over priced and right now Bolt's are hard to come by and are not in stock @ TiVo.

    Bottom line for me is that TiVo hardware is just OK. The best part of TiVo is the software. TiVo's primary business is selling it's service so hardware quality is low on the list for them.
     
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  15. ufo4sale

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    I had to replace my Bolt 3 times because the hard drive crashed. Would that be related to a cooling issue?
     
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  16. dianebrat

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    I view the Roamio as a more reliable model than the Bolt, neither of mine have ever had an issue, and I have 2 Roamios and 2.5 Bolts.
     
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  17. mattyro7878

    mattyro7878 Well-Known Member

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    You have a half a Bolt? Does it do 2k?
     
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  18. mdavej

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    Why would you even consider getting another one? That doesn't make sense.

    You know first hand that Bolt is unreliable. It's too early to tell about Edge. And it's common knowledge that Roamio is reliable. So to me, the decision is a no-brainer.
     
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  19. ufo4sale

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    I know how unreliable the bolt's can be but if it's a cooling issue then there might be a work around for that. Which is why I asked in the first place. I'm not investing in old tech I.E. Roamio's no matter how "reliable" it is even though MY Roamio has died ironically enough. I've read the the Edge has some "major" issues with them so I'm hesitant about investing money into a product that has issues with them. I guess it's the devil you know vs the devil you don't. I ask again given the information and concerns that I might have. Which one, if you had to choose, would you consider "doubling down on?" meaning transferring lifetimes to.
     
  20. dianebrat

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    I only count the extra bolt that's sitting unplugged in a closet as 1/2 a Bolt since it hasn't been used since last summer.
    but now I'm reminded of the Eric half a bee skit from Monty Python
     

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