TiVo App and iOS 9 public beta

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by tspofford, Aug 30, 2015.

  1. ellinj

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    App Update out today for iOS9
     
  2. bbeck

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    And it's compatible with the 9.1 Public Beta.
     
  3. PaulS

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    yeah it is! nice...
     
  4. tgrugle

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    Still getting the same accusation after installing ios9. TiVo stream is a frustrating experience at best.
     
  5. dianebrat

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    Install the updated Tivo app, the old app will never change what it thinks of iOS9.
     
  6. tgrugle

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    Right. Deleted old app, reinstalled app (why doesn't this happen in the background?!?). The app no longer yells at me that my device is unauthorized, now it just won't connect to the stream device. "Device not found". Such a great idea, such a massively sucky implementation, TiVo.
     
  7. tgrugle

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    My final two cents. It seems clear that TiVo really doesn't like you to stream away from your home network. So many kinks and barriers. So I can probably stream just fine when I'm home (which is never), but why would I need to steam when I'm home?!? Couldn't I just go watch the tv? Isn't the whole idea of streaming is to do it when you are NOT home? Since I moved away TiVo has been nothing but frustrating.
     
  8. dianebrat

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    Some folks are just cursed...
    I've never had an issue with the Tivo app on iOS or its streaming other than when the app or OS updates I'll frequnetly have to set it up for out of home streaming. I'm not sure what your kinks were, but I never found it to be that difficult of a setup process.
     
  9. tgrugle

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    It's the part about having to set it up over and over and over and over and over. And I'm just not home that much. The whole "out of home streaming" is kind of a joke. It only works if you are home. A lot.


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  10. Dan203

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    You only have to set it up once while at home. If it loses sync after that you can redo the setup away from home. The reason you had trouble is because you deleted the app, which erased all the data it had that you had gone through the setup at home first.

    Now as to why they require you to set it up at home first.... not sure. But it's just as likely it's a requirement by Cable Labs or the content owners then a simple TiVo issue. There are all sorts of hoops you have to jump through with every product that deals with a direct digital copy of something being downloaded/streamed outside the home.
     
  11. dianebrat

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    YMMV
    I was in NYC for Labor Day weekend and I had been using my Sling to watch the race on NBCSN via cellular and the Sling died, I swapped over to the Tivo app and while not as nice it was certainly sufficient to watch, certainly not a "joke" but not Sling quality on the 37" TV I was piping it into, probably would have been fine on a 28" set.
     
  12. JBDragon

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    It's for these types of reasons why you SHOULDN'T run Beta software on your primary device!! Tivo like everyone else can't release updated software that supports a new OS version until that OS is released!!! That means a number of apps could have issues. Anything Video like this would have some sort of DRM to it and a Beta version of a OS is going to have issues.

    Next time, don't be so impatient and and wait for the Public Release of the new OS. Don't use a BETA even if you can run it. Crying to Tivo is laughable. The Beta is released so that company's like TIVO and Beta test their own updated software to run on the new OS so when iOS get's released, TIVO is ready to release their new update. You'll see, especially when having a bunch of Apps, many Apps with updates on launch day of iOS.

    I remember the iOS 8 beta, and no 3rd party keyboards to try as they couldn't be released until iOS 8 was released. It's a feature that's there but you can't use, test. The Developers though can and when iOS8 launched, there was a bunch of 3rd party keyboards ready that day.

    When iOS10 Beta comes out, DON'T install it. You may once again have another TIVO issue along with other issues. Wait until it's out of Beta and released to everyone. I know it's really temping. I want to run Beta's every year on my own phone, but I resist temptation. Paying around with it on a older spare phone, or even a iPad which isn't as critical would be fine, but TIVO would have issues on that, but it wouldn't be on your Primary device.
     
  13. Daveb08

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    Pardon my French. ********. ITS NOT UNAUTHORIZED. I own the system. I don't want TiVo telling me what OS I can use. Beta is semantics. It's labeled iOS "9" for a reason. ITS BEEN AROUND FOR A DECADE. The 'developer' edition has been available for weeks. I'm paying Tivo monthly to use their software on my hardware, so don't hold me hostage for months. There are legitimate reasons why I'm using new medical features of the Beta NOW. I don't need TiVo to determine if that usage is legitimate, that's my decision. Authorize the app for use of the product I'm paying them to use.

    And don't bother with another of your arrogant responses.
     
  14. dianebrat

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    You're 100% right, you can do whatever you want with your device, but Tivo can decide to only support released versions of the OS, and the pre-release iOS 9 releases were not a supported release version to the public.
     
  15. Daveb08

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    Do you have any idea how complicated it would be for them as a Developer to test whether a dot.x update crashes their app. Keep in mind we are not talking about iOS 10 here. This seems to be an authorization issue. Don't they control authorization? Wouldn't they like a heads up on whether their app crashes with an impending update, or is it better for them to wait until the iOS is released into the wild and 100% of their clientele crash. I've not noticed anywhere where TiVo promotes their own Beta testers through the Apples TestFlight program. I've participated with several app developers in this regard. I for one would volunteer for TiVo!
     
  16. steviet

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    When you say "exactly as expected" where in the TiVo description of the app does it say it only works with released versions? I understand they don't have to support requests for help or bugs with the TiVo app while running on a beta version of the software but rendering the app unable to stream is stupid. And to people saying they are detecting a debugger or some other notion like that, it's not possible. They are checking the version of iOS and if it doesn't fit in their supported range they just aren't allowing it to stream. Can you imagine if every app on these devices did that? They should just let the app run regardless of the version of OS.
     
  17. ellinj

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    Partly apples fault, they will not allow an update to fix an issue with beta software until the os is GA. I suspect the issue is Tivo being a bit overzelous about detecting jailbreaks. They want to keep the content secure to appease cable labs and the networks. They didn't anticipate that the next os would not allow the software to run.
     
  18. steviet

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    Clearly you're not a developer. Clearly TiVo developers aren't very clever when it comes to handling this issue. There's no reason to not allow the app to stream video based on the iOS version. If someone updated to a beta version and it didn't work because something changed then that's too bad, but crippling it based on the iOS version is poor development.
     
  19. Daveb08

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    Uh, not sure that's entirely accurate. Apple purchased and uses the TestFlight app to enhance their previous App Store constraint to Developer testing activities. It greatly expands how Developers and testers can participate in the Beta process. All developers (including TiVo) can Update their apps for a Beta (i.e. 9.3) release the app to their testers. Win, win. Why do you think Apple created the PUBLIC beta program, because the non-public or limited developer versions were working so well, or because it gave them and the developers time to TEST versions before it got to the general public?
     
  20. ellinj

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    TestFlight can be used to release software to the developers testers not the o/s testers ( that would be everyone). Are you in the Tivo App Beta testing group? Thats the only way you are getting a trial version of the app.
     

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