TiVo announces two new boxes. Premiere Q (4 tuner box) and the Premiere Preview

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  1. rv65

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    Motorola TA's support 6 tuners, but there are some cableco's that use the older firmware which only supports 2 tuners. As long as your cableco has the 6 tuner firmware, you are fine. TWC is testing a 6 tuner TA firmware in North Carolina, though it should be out sometime in August. This new firmware probably fixes the bugs that plague the Cisco TA.
     
  2. sbiller

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    Per the FCC Ruling a minimum of four channels must be supported by August 1st,

     
  3. aaronwt

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    The days of analog outputs is certainly numbered. But I would think it should be around for a few more years. BD players won't drop analog outputs until the beginning of 2014.
     
  4. jlb

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    ok....stupid question.....

    Is it possible that a TiVoHD could then handle more than 2 tuners? I.e., are there physical digital tuners or are they....er.....software based?
     
  5. innocentfreak

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    It is physical. TiVo uses a 2 chip design with each chip having a set number and type of tuners. On the TiVo HD, they use a matching pair of chips from what I remember. Each chip has 1 OTA/1 Analog/1 Qam so with 2 chips you can use any combination but only 2 tuners at once.

    In the Elite/Q it is believed they are using 2 chips with 2 Qam tuners only on each chip which allows for a total of 4 tuners at once.
     
  6. jlb

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    Ah ok. I get it.

    I am going to need a third tuner for one evening next season (well 2012). I don't want to get another Tivo/sub just for that.

    Will likely either utilize Amazon VOD or perhaps Hulu.
     
  7. aaronwt

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    Just one evening? :)
     
  8. Jul 1, 2011 #208 of 325
    jlb

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    yeah. We just have basic cable with just locals (in HD). Our two tuners are more than enough for us.
     
  9. Jul 2, 2011 #209 of 325
    DocNo

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    I think it's cute you assume a cable company would support lifetime ;)
     
  10. Jul 2, 2011 #210 of 325
    DocNo

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    Yes but for an HTPC you can always add another OTA tuner.

    Which reminds me, I should really play with the current version of media center. Perhaps it's all I need after all! No monthly fee's, that's for sure!
     
  11. Jul 2, 2011 #211 of 325
    innocentfreak

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    7MC is good, and there are definite things I like over TiVo such as some of their season pass settings, but overall I prefer TiVo.

    I keep looking at building a 7MC server of sorts. It would house at least one InfiniTV 4 and then I would just use the Premieres for playback. Of course the problem is getting the WTV files renamed into something like
    Chuck - S04E13 - Chuck Versus the Push Mix.WTV for better organization. Then there is still the matter of converting to MPG since last I looked FFmpeg can't handle WTV files yet.
     
  12. Jul 2, 2011 #212 of 325
    slowbiscuit

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    Agreed - 7MC is way more powerful with all the add-ons, but the user experience is not as good as Tivo's. Especially on the extenders. I do run both in my house and by far prefer the Tivos.
     
  13. Jul 4, 2011 #213 of 325
    jwagner010

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    Will the Q finally be DNLA compliant/capable?
     
  14. Jul 4, 2011 #214 of 325
    classicsat

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    Well, since the Q is aimed at MSOs, and MSOs do not likely to obtain or use content from other than them, I would doubt it.

    If there were to be a "Standalone" consumer owned Q/Preview, then possibly.
     
  15. Jul 4, 2011 #215 of 325
    rainwater

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    It will probably be the same basic software as the current Premiere. TiVo has never shown any interest in DLNA support, so I would say the chances are about zero percent.
     
  16. Jul 4, 2011 #216 of 325
    sbiller

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    TiVo wants people to stay in their eco-system so they can perform audience measurement, insert advertisements, sell additional subscriptions (Preview, Best Buy Insignia TV, additional Premiere's), etc. Support for DLNA would be a nice feature but the business effects mean that TiVo will not support it unless they are required to support it due to mandate or competitive pressure.
     
  17. Jul 4, 2011 #217 of 325
    aaronwt

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    What would DLNA get me? With my media players I just access my Samba shares and all my content is available.
     
  18. Jul 4, 2011 #218 of 325
    morac

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    DLNA is one of the main standards for accessing media on a network as such there are a number of programs and hardware devices (routers, NAS drives, media servers, etc) with built in DLNA support. TiVo tends to avoid standards for some reason (with mDNS support being an exception). As such rather than simply running a DLNA server, something like TiVo Desktop is needed.
     
  19. b_scott

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    so this seems like Moxi for cable providers..
     
  20. davezatz

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    It's more like Verizon than Moxi. Moxi streams live TV from DVR to extender. TiVo's 'extender' in this case is a regular set-top box with CableCARD and tuner, so it gets live TV on its own.
     

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