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Tivo and Direcway DW6000 problem

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#1 ·
I had Tivo SEries 2 working perfectly with Direcway internet using their old 4000-series USB modems and ICS (Internet Connection Sharing)on a Windwos XP PC. I upgraded (hah!) to a DW6000 modem which is also a router and just has a LAN (ethernet port), which I run into a switch. Tivo talks to my LAN fine - I can publish pictures and music, it show a MAC address on setup, etc. But when I test the connection, it says "Negotiation Failed" It must be in the router, because I'm going through the same Direcway satellite, NOC (Network Operation Center) etc. Direcway is no help. Anyone have a cure? Please? :)
Jud
 
#127 ·
I have been monitoring this thread every since it was started. I am glad to see that a couple of people have got it to work with the DW7000. Has anyone else tried using these instructions. I previously had 2 standalone Tivos and wanted to use them with Hughesnet. I regrettably left Tivo because of this reason. I could no longer afford $40-50 for a phone line plus $20 in Tivo fees just for a DVR. I switched to Directv and got 2 of the R15 Dvr's. While this Dvr is OK, it certainly doesn't measure up to my Tivos. I would gladly go back to paying the Tivo fees if it would only update itself with Hughesnet. I hopefully will be back to Tivo in a year. My Hughes contract is up in a year and my area just got cable internet. I was hoping to hear if a few other people had similar success. Obviously, I don't want to reactivate my Tivos, only to find out I still can't update them.
 
#128 ·
gfkjr said:
I have been monitoring this thread every since it was started. I am glad to see that a couple of people have got it to work with the DW7000. Has anyone else tried using these instructions. I previously had 2 standalone Tivos and wanted to use them with Hughesnet. I regrettably left Tivo because of this reason. I could no longer afford $40-50 for a phone line plus $20 in Tivo fees just for a DVR. I switched to Directv and got 2 of the R15 Dvr's. While this Dvr is OK, it certainly doesn't measure up to my Tivos. I would gladly go back to paying the Tivo fees if it would only update itself with Hughesnet. I hopefully will be back to Tivo in a year. My Hughes contract is up in a year and my area just got cable internet. I was hoping to hear if a few other people had similar success. Obviously, I don't want to reactivate my Tivos, only to find out I still can't update them.
Sorry,
I think i was a little enthusiastic and didn't notice that I had connected via phone, not network... sorry everyone. I'll try to remove my post... i as so excited to. there must be a solution...
 
#129 ·
I was over joyed when I was able to get my TIVO to actually to work with my Network only to have my hopes and wishes dashed when I get the error N17. I have tried everything from just having the Tivo connected to the DW6000 and still it's a no go. Thankfully I still have the option of using the modem to connect but when will Dway get with the program???!
 
#131 ·
I was just able to get my Tivo to work with my DW6000 for the 1st time in 2 years.
I set the switch in the DW6000 advanced setting for TurboPage configuration to "Use TurboPage Server configured below" and set them to 10.10.10.10 and port 86. (see attached for screen shot)
Tivo had a successful connection and downloaded my listings.
I am now going to test the Datastorm Web Accelerator Keep Alive program for the Direcway 6000 Modem. Will keep you all advised.
 

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#133 ·
Terry...your suggestion to change the Turbo settings worked! I had been fiddling with it for hours and was getting disgusted.

I also disabled the DHCP server on my router since the DW6000 has its own DHCP server.

I have to know...where in the world did you get the IP and port number settings? They sound like they came from a tech support person who finally figured out the problem.

Thanks :D
 
#134 ·
jwlehman said:
Terry...your suggestion to change the Turbo settings worked! I had been fiddling with it for hours and was getting disgusted.

I also disabled the DHCP server on my router since the DW6000 has its own DHCP server.

I have to know...where in the world did you get the IP and port number settings? They sound like they came from a tech support person who finally figured out the problem.

Thanks :D
I'm just wondering if others have tried this successfully as well. I have HughesNet service. I don't know what level it's called but it's the highest residential plan they have. I also have the HN7000S Modem. I have tried this turbo page hack and it still gives me an error "Failure while negotiating" I have a static IP that is plugged into my router and my router assignes a dynamic IP to the Directv dvr. Its a dual tuner R10.
 
#135 ·
I just got a HughesNet system and can tell you that I haven't been able to get my TiVos to work. I don't understand since the TiVo series 2 I have can get weather, traffic and play pod cast, but not download guide data. I have turn the proxy off and still nothing. I don't know what I am going to do, there are no toll free numbers in my area.
 
#136 ·
I set the ip on the turbo page to 10.10.10.10, port 86. But how do I configure network settings on the Tivo? I tried letting DHCP find IP - no go. Tried 10.10.10.10 as ip, but I don't have clue what to enter for mask, gateway, DNS, etc. Thanks - Jud, who started this convoluted thread ;-)
 
#137 ·
I have some information that may mean something to someone more knowledgeable than I. It may be yet another piece to the puzzle.

I have a DW7000S, pro plan, static IP. I can wget a file from my Dtivo's with no probelem. But if I try to use h*ttp_get to download a file, I get:

Bad H*TTP response: H*TTP/1.0 400 Bad Request
Bad H*TTP response: H*TTP/1.0 400 Bad Request

One request, two error messages. I had to insert the "*" in h*ttp because I don't have enough posts and it thinks I'm posting a link.

Does this trigger any ideas???
 
#139 ·
terry_T said:
I was just able to get my Tivo to work with my DW6000 for the 1st time in 2 years.
I set the switch in the DW6000 advanced setting for TurboPage configuration to "Use TurboPage Server configured below" and set them to 10.10.10.10 and port 86. (see attached for screen shot)
Tivo had a successful connection and downloaded my listings.
I am now going to test the Datastorm Web Accelerator Keep Alive program for the Direcway 6000 Modem. Will keep you all advised.
The above worked for me. Although it didn't appear to work at first. The next morning the regular update had gone off without a hitch.
 
#140 ·
I still can't connect. I've set the ip on the turbo page to 10.10.10.10, port 86.

But what network settings are you using on the Tivo? I tried letting DHCP find IP - no go. Tried 10.10.10.10 as ip, but I don't have clue what to enter for mask, gateway, DNS, etc. Thanks - Jud
 
#141 ·
Hi! My name is Casey. I have a DW6000, Blitzz Router, and 2 TiVo's. I am using a D-Link wireless adapter in the BedRoom and one of TiVo's wireless adapters in the LivingRoom. I have been fooling around with this issue since day 1. I don't know what I have done but I have successfully connected and downloaded the info for a while now. But, I had a power glitch the other day and now I am back to "FAILED WHILE NEGOTIATING," the infamous trio. I have restarted, reset, cleared ratings - program info - guide info, all that good stuff. I know that this is not much help to those seeking an answer but I am working on the solution. I have recently signed up to become a TiVo developer - I am working through the documentation right now. As soon as I develop a solution, clear it with TiVo, and follow the proper protocol, I will make it available to this community. IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN THIS PROJECT :::::: > SEND AN EMAIL TO ME!
 
#142 ·
Casey,
Didn't see an email in your message, but I am definitely interested. I think I'm even the one who started this interminable thread :), although I've not been any help in solving the problem. I, too, get the "failed while negotiating" with everything I've tried, but I'm not too knowledgeable about network matters. Anyhow, PLEASE keep us posted!
Thanks - Jud
 
#145 ·
I believe that the problem description and solution are accurately described right here in this thread over TWO YEARS AGO by one-post-wonder dwsux(!).

I PM'ed TivoPony about it just last week to no response--maybe he doesn't read PMs, or has forwarded my message to someone else, I dunno. Perhaps it would be difficult for Tivo to fix (likely involving both Tivo and Tivo's Server); I doubt Hughes would ever do anything about this. But it does answer IMO why Tivo works for some people and not for most--the lucky ones are those with TurboPage disabled in their modems.
 
#146 ·
I have not been able to get this to work since I upgraded to the DW7000 almost 2 years ago. I tried many things and all of a sudden it started working yesterday. It has worked twice now. I have a tivo series 2

Here is the DW7000 info.

Satellite
Transmit Path:

Satellite
Outroute:

Primary
Longitude:

99 West
Receive Frequency:

1350 MHz
Receive Symbol Rate:

30 Msps
Receive Polarization:

Vertical
Transmit Polarization:

Horizontal
22KHz Tone:

Off
Router Address:

66.82.25.158
Transmit Radio Info
Transmit Radio Wattage:

1 Watt

Software Configuration
NAT:

Enabled
DHCP:

Enabled on Lan1
Firewall:

Disabled (from NOC)
Turbo Page:

Enabled

Software Date:

Apr 16 2007, 13:28:47
Software Release:

5.4.0.33

I have a Linksys WRT54G Wireless router.

Firmware Version : v4.20.7

I have a Linksys wireless B USB network adapter on the tivo.

My tivo software version is 8,301-2-540
 
#147 ·
I periodically attempt to access the tivo service via my DW6000, it has never worked. Just tried and it worked ?????
Is anyone elses working, maybe tivo fixed the problem ?? :) :) :) :)
 
#150 ·
I finally got around to testing this and indeed the latest software 9.2 has fixed the "failed to negotiate" problem.

Thanks, Tivo, but I wish you had told somebody this change was in the new software?
 
#151 ·
Both my Series 1 and Series 2 TiVos work now without my work around. So I would say it was something that HughesNet has done, not TiVo. I haven't seen a software update for the Series 1 for a long time.
 
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