TiVo Alternatives?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Saturn, Sep 21, 2019.

  1. Mikeguy

    Mikeguy Well-Known Member

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    Cool--just thought to mention it. (When I updated from my Series 2 TiVo box, with a single tuner, to a Roamio box with 4 tuners years ago it was a joy--and I still sometimes find that I run out of tuners, even though I'm an OTA guy (fortunately, my PBS station typically repeats shows overnight). It's an illness. ;) )
     
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  2. Charles R

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    I don't know if the Recast will clip overlapping shows so your number of (free) tuners might be reduced...
     
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  3. Aaron Malloy

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    I record shows from PBS as well. I also have a Roamio 4 tuner model. While all of those tuners is convenient, I'm just realizing that I'm spending more time watching streaming content so it's a bit overkill for my needs and I'm just tired of paying the $15 a month.

    The TiVo monthly fee can be put towards streaming apps like Britbox, which has most of the British shows that PBS broadcasts.
     
  4. Aaron Malloy

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    You may be right about that.
     
  5. Mikeguy

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    Roamio OTA VOX 1TB refurb at WeakNees, with included Lifetime, for $299.99. ;)
     
  6. jcthorne

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    Does the Recast support other Android TV streaming boxes like the Shield yet or just on FireTV still?
     
  7. Charles R

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    Just Fire devices I believe... however the Fire TV 4K is a whopping $25 now... non 4K $20.
     
  8. Adam C.

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    I picked up my Recast from Best Buy today (same $179 price tag as Amazon). Setup was pretty simple. I have it connected via Ethernet and it seems stable with no buffering. The 720p picture quality is definitely noticeable compared to my Roamio OTA. I plan to continue using the Roamio on my main TVs and will use the Recast for live TV streaming to my lesser used TVs like the kitchen and basement. One thing I noticed right away is that some of the program guide information was missing on a couple channels for certain times. Not a big deal since this won't be my primary DVR, but something to keep in mind.

    The Recast definitely performs better with the 4K Firestick. The older model Firestick is noticeably sluggish when loading and switching channels. The 4K stick is much snappier. So it's definitely worth paying 5 bucks extra for the 4K model even if you don't have a 4K TV. Streaming to my phone via wifi as well as out of home seems to be working great. I was never able to get the Tivo Stream device to work so it's nice to be able to have an out of home streaming option again.
     
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  9. Mikeguy

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    Thanks for the report. It's interesting to think that the Recast currently (at its sale price) is in the $ neighborhood of the TiVo Mini VOX.
     
  10. Aaron Malloy

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    Thanks for the detailed write-up. I also saw that Best Buy was carrying it. But I wondered if the return policy is better at Amazon than BB, should I be inclined to send it back.
     
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  11. Lurker1

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    If Best Buy is nearby, you can take it back through January 14. Amazon used to have a no-tax advantage but they lost that, so local stores can be easier sometimes now.
     
  12. Aaron Malloy

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    I know Best Buy has been price-matching Amazon for quite some time, so I do get a number of things there. But BB can sometimes charge a restocking fee on returns.
     
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  13. Mikeguy

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    Also, the Amazon holiday purchase return period lasts to January 31, for items shipped by Amazon between Nov. 1 and Dec. 31, if that extra 2-1/2 weeks is of any import (e.g. I have a relative with an early Jan. birthday--nice to have the extra return time).
     
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    ncted

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    While I rarely record more than a couple of shows at once. I do occasionally want to record two shows and watch a third live. That said, it is not a common occurrence.
     
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    ncted

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    I rarely look at the guide any more TBH. Kind of weird after decades of living by the guide.
     
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    Pokemon_Dad

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    Continuing this conversation from the pre-roll thread:
    Good question! I'm not certain it won't be in there when the product finally comes out, but that's right they haven't announced 4K support. I wonder if it would be worth the cost though.

    As far as I know most cable companies still offer no 4K at all. Xfinity offers it in On Demand (not supported by the Prime), and they seem to be testing it on just a few minor individual sports events on specific dates.

    To add 4K to the product, Silicon Dust would probably have to increase the price. It might be best to release a new model when more customers will have 4K programs to watch.
     
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    Amnesia

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    I can understand that. But if I'm going to buy new hardware when the HomeRun Prime is released, I'd want to hardware to be somewhat future-proofed....

    ...that's the same reason why I refuse to buy a Chromebook that doesn't support WiFi-6...
     
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    Pokemon_Dad

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    I want my stuff future-proofed too, when it can be. But we could talking about a very distant future here, at the rate CBS, NBC, ABC, and some cable providers are moving towards it. Then they wonder why we are watching more and more streaming.
     
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    Adam C.

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    You can buy a Chromebook for 100 bucks. How future-proof do you really need it to be. That's the thing with electronics in general, no matter what you buy there is always something new right around the corner.
     
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    Saturn

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    Well, for those playing along at home, I'm currently trying an HDHomeRun Connect Quadro with Plex. The Roku Plex app doesn't do a 30sec skip forward/7 sec back, making it a deal breaker for watching football - I use 30-sec skip forward between plays all the time (throwing in a few 7 sec backs as hurry-up-offense kicks in, etc). I picked up one of the Amazon Fire 4k sticks for $25 and I'm pleasantly surprised. It has 30sec forward, 10 sec back. No progress bar pops up, which is a bit annoying, but the TiVo's bar stayed up for too long anyway blocking the score bar. The forward 30 sec was very responsive, back 10 sec was a little sluggish but tolerable. I wish I could make it 7 sec back, but maybe that's hackable/tweakable.

    The thing that may steer me away from Plex is its lack of a "Now Playing" equivalent. Trying to browse for the football game I wanted had everything is stuck under NFL Football. There was no way to see which game was which, both I had recorded just said S2019. No title, no nothing. Frustrating. Even the web player that has a list view doesn't show the teams. The information is there (Get Info shows the team names in the file name, but nowhere else). It seems like Plex isn't using the guide data (that is included in the subscription) to get metadata. Rather, the TV/DVR side is shoving things into the library and then relying on the library metadata service to display them. Looks like the NFL issue is known and with a version update and turning off Enhanced Guide I may be able to work around it. NFL Recordings :rolleyes:

    Even more frustrating is that both Plex and TiVo had the wrong metadata for the game I wanted today, so neither recorded it. I triggered it on plex for the last hour or so, so I was able to try it out at least.

    Leaning more towards just sticking with TiVo at this point. Still no preroll ads here. Or I may just giving up watching football (both Plex and the TiVo work fine for my wife).
     

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