TiVo Alternatives?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Saturn, Sep 21, 2019.

  1. Sep 22, 2019 #41 of 1017

    wizwor Guest

    Dec 17, 2013


    I love this description of the Tablo TV DVR. It's spot on. I would only add that, with their subscription service, you get out of home viewing.
  2. Sep 22, 2019 #42 of 1017

    wizwor Guest

    Dec 17, 2013
    For the dramas, the Recast is a great choice. I think the Recast would be soft for some of the Olympic events.

    The Olympics were the very first thing I watched after installing a DB8 in my home. The amazing quality of the hockey games convinced me that OTA was the best option for me. Nothing wrong with plugging a FTV Stick into a TCL Roku TV ;-)
  3. Sep 22, 2019 #43 of 1017

    wizwor Guest

    Dec 17, 2013
    Same boat. Check out the TCL Roku televisions. Just what you will love. I'm going to replace my 60" LG plasma with a 75-90" TCL Roku TV.
  4. Sep 22, 2019 #44 of 1017

    WhenenRome Member

    Nov 13, 2010
    I'm so sorry, mdavej - I obviously did something wrong with my quoting. I'm correcting it right now.
  5. Sep 22, 2019 #45 of 1017

    dadrepus Active Member

    Jan 4, 2012


    Same here. I also have this as a backup. Works OK but I really need to upgrade my Plex server if it is to be my primary. Using an old Mac mini and it can get a little sluggish and cannot pump out 4k. But as a backup for OTA it works fine.
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  6. Sep 22, 2019 #46 of 1017

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

    Jan 1, 2002
    Staunton, VA
    TiVo has had a Vudu app since October/November 2014 (we bought our Roamio in October 2015). When was the last time that you checked? :)

    TiVo Winter Update to Feature Amazon, Vudu, and Mobile Improvements

  7. Sep 22, 2019 #47 of 1017

    spiderpumpkin Say no to Hydra!

    Dec 1, 2017
    I'm seriously thinking about trying Channels Plus with TV Everywhere and HDHomeRun. I like how it works with HDHomerun tuners, and Channels TV Everywhere integrates cable providers and streaming providers into one lineup that can be recorded and managed. Not to mention that I can have tons of storage with a NAS. If I get this all set up and working I may ditch Tivo down the road.

    Wouldn't it be wonderful if Tivo was like Channels and could integrate OTA and streaming providers into the same channel lineup to browse and record?
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  8. Sep 22, 2019 #48 of 1017

    jcthorne Well-Known Member

    Jan 28, 2002
    Would it be possible to auto transfer and transcode content from a Tivo to a Plex installation such that all Tivo recordings show up in a Plex library? I know kmttg has some level of automation but can it handle auto renaming and placement? Still, even if I got this to work, it would be hours after a show ends before it would show up in Plex so useless for evening news or other daily local shows.
  9. Sep 22, 2019 #49 of 1017

    mdavej Well-Known Member

    Aug 13, 2015
    Doh! I guess that really was the last time I checked. Is it 4k HDR with Atmos, the main complaint of the OP?
  10. Sep 22, 2019 #50 of 1017

    Pokemon_Dad Ruler of Unown UI

    Jan 19, 2008
    Silicon Valley
    I'm looking at that too. Apparently the HD HomeRun box that supports cable, Prime 6, is not yet available. The website promises it in 2019, so we may see it sometime between now and December 25th.

    Last year I helped someone else set up a basic OTA solution with the Connect Duo, and it worked like magic. Thanks to posts here I've learned of Channels, and that takes it to a whole new level.

    Channels looks better than the HD HomeRun DVR solution, but I'll compare them again as the date approaches for my next annual renewal of TiVo service. I could just upgrade the hard disk on my Lifetime TiVo box to replace the annual service box instead. Just depends how the whole pre-roll advertising thing shakes out I guess.
  11. Sep 22, 2019 #51 of 1017

    mdavej Well-Known Member

    Aug 13, 2015
    The main thing I think when reading this thread is how much it sucks having to go back to old technology to get a workable solution because Tivo is forcing our hand. I ran a Windows Media Center DVR with HD HomeRun Primes (and Cetons) nearly a decade ago. It worked better than Tivo does today, until they switched to a Rovi guide. But it was a pain having so many different components to maintain, hence my switch to Tivo. Fast forward to today, now Tivo will soon be full of forced ads, taking them back off the table of acceptable solutions. I may as well drag my old WMC system back out and plug in my old Primes again.

    @pokemon, don't hold your breath on the 6-tuner. Silicon Dust has been promising it for at least 4 years now (HDHomeRun DVR). It's never going to happen. Just get two Primes or one old 6-tuner Ceton. I still have a couple of 6 and 4 tuner Cetons in my closet.

    There is no comparison between Channels and HD HomeRun's DVR. It's like comparing a Ferrari to a tricycle. The moment you pull up the HD HomeRun guide, you'll want to throw a hammer at your TV. Don't even bother.

    Question for those seeking alternatives. Would you still keep Tivo if there were no pre-roll ads, but ads in the grid guide instead?
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  12. Sep 22, 2019 #52 of 1017

    wombat94 Member

    Nov 18, 2007
    I'm going full steam ahead with Channels DVR with TVEverywhere and HDHomerun on Fios. The only thing I have to decide is whether I want to use Cablecard with a HDHomerun Prime3 or get a HDHomerun Connect.

    The TVEverywhere "tuner" for Channels with Verizon Fios gives me all channels that I watch/record regularly except for 8. Six of those are local OTA stations and two are History Channel and HBO - both of which have their own streaming apps with all of their content libraries available so I don't really need live TV/DVR for those.

    I may very well never be hit by the preroll ads (I'm still on TE3 and don't intend to upgrade), but for me this whole incident has opened my eyes to the state of the art outside of Tivo. I've been using channels since Friday and I am impressed. So far I'm only using the TVEverywhere for Fios, but I really like the experience.

    To me, I don't see it as a significant step backward. I like the video server/client model - that's what I've been doing with my Roamio Pro in the wiring closet and Minis at the TVs for years.

    In many ways, what Channels has achieved with their TVEverywhere client seems like the next generation and a model for 3rd party DVRs in the age of IPTV and streaming.
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  13. Sep 22, 2019 #53 of 1017

    davezatz Funkadelic

    Apr 18, 2002
    Fairfax, VA
    Wish HDHomeRun would confirm their 6-tuner CableCARD network device is still coming. Also hoping TiVo rethinks this nonsense.
  14. Sep 22, 2019 #54 of 1017

    manhole Member

    Apr 14, 2005
    I posted about this in another thread earlier today. I didn’t see this thread which would have made more sense to post in. So far I am very impressed with the commercial skip and overall experience of the Channels DVR. I’m hoping they don’t get shut down for allowing recording and commercial skipping of the streaming feeds because it works great.

    Does anyone know what the procedure would be for pairing the cable card from my TiVo to a HDHomeRun? Would I have to involve Comcast?
  15. Sep 22, 2019 #55 of 1017

    JoeKustra in the other Alabama TCF Club

    Dec 7, 2012
    Ashland, PA...
    I don't care about the ads so much as having a BSC. Gold star ads & pause ads never bothered me either. I'm afraid that TiVo will find a really slow server and it will get slower as more users get the software.
  16. Sep 22, 2019 #56 of 1017

    chiguy50 U.S. Army (ret.)

    Nov 9, 2009
    Atlanta, GA
    As a Comcast customer, I think my first preference would be to resort to renting their Xi5/Xi6 wireless STB's with cloud DVR. I would consider it a decided step back in convenience and technology and would have to swallow additional fees, but that looks like the best alternative for my use case at present.

    FTR: I don't use TiVo for streaming; for that I have dedicated media streamers (principally Nvidia Shield TV, Amazon Fire TV 4K, and Roku Ultra).
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  17. Sep 22, 2019 #57 of 1017

    Saturn Lord of the Rings

    Apr 10, 2001
    Tablo is looking pretty good. I could probably make something work with an HDHomeRun and Channels Plus, but that seems like 1) more work and 2) requires a subscription. I'm not super keen on paying for a subscription. I understand guide data costs money, but everything else is just tuning, dumping video to a hard drive and making it available on several platforms.
  18. Sep 22, 2019 #58 of 1017

    Pokemon_Dad Ruler of Unown UI

    Jan 19, 2008
    Silicon Valley
    Your options include the Comcast Xfinity CableCARD Activation/Pairing web page or call the Comcast CableCARD hotline. I'm sure HD HomeRun provides instructions on bringing up the appropriate screen for pairing.

    Only the HD HomeRun Prime series supports CableCARDs. The Prime 6 is not yet available, but older Prime versions are available used on eBay and elsewhere.
  19. Sep 22, 2019 #59 of 1017

    Pokemon_Dad Ruler of Unown UI

    Jan 19, 2008
    Silicon Valley
    You seem to have tagged another Pokemon. Hope that's worth some points if you're playing GO! :) We both joined way before that game existed though.

    Worrisome that they've been promising the Prime 6 since 2015. The website does promise it's "Coming 2019", but if that fails to appear I do see plenty of the older versions on eBay new and used.
  20. Sep 22, 2019 #60 of 1017

    tommiet Well-Known Member

    Oct 28, 2005
    Amazon is also beta testing commercial skip now. Hope to see it soon. Another nail for the TiVo coffin.

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