TiVo Alternatives?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Saturn, Sep 21, 2019.

  1. Nov 1, 2019 #421 of 922
    mdavej

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    Yes, plenty. But there is no pattern.
     
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    dadrepus

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    Maybe people don't want to rent 2 cards from Comcast or Verizon or others. For me it was an additional $12/month.
     
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  3. Nov 3, 2019 #423 of 922
    DBV1

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    I am trying the Channels App/DVR with ATV (non 4k) and the commercial skipping is great. The only issue I have is the quality is not that great. Any ideas of what I might be doing wrong, as it sounds like most people think the quality is usually really good. I am using it along with my AT&T Now "Go Big" credentials. Thanks!
     
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    Pokemon_Dad

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    What specifically about the quality? Overall I am pleased with Channels. But I find the colors somewhat over saturated, and can find no way to adjust that. (My wife doesn't notice that at all.) Also as far as I know Live TV via streaming will include only stereo sound, not 5.1 surround. That's certainly the case here, where I get surround sound on any OTA channels that include it, but only stereo sound on the one Xfinity TVE channel we've been recording.
     
  5. Nov 3, 2019 #425 of 922
    DBV1

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    It seems like I am watching SD instead of HD. Sometimes it seems as if frames go slower to compared to watching on AT&TN on my ATV. Can't figure it out, as I have heard the quality should be really good. Do you think yours is as good or to your Tivo?
     
  6. Nov 3, 2019 #426 of 922
    Pokemon_Dad

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    I'm getting HD here and it looks good to us. But I'm not on AT&T, and my clients are Fire TV and web, so we're not exactly comparing apples to Apple, so-to-speak. How does it look there via a web browser compared to a direct AT&TN feed in the same browser?

    Edit: if it looks correct in a web browser, the problem could be frame rate settings in the Channels ATV app. I don't have ATV but there is information on that control somewhere in the Channels Community.
     
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  7. Nov 3, 2019 #427 of 922
    DBV1

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    I think it looks ok on the web browser, but then again I am looking at 27 inch screen, but still seems better. I played around with some setting on the client, but nothing seems to work. Channel App has had really good customer service so far, so maybe they will know of something to correct that tomorrow. Hope something works, as really like the interface.

    Thanks for the help too! :)
     
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    NashGuy

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    NashGuy

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    Read today a new blog post about SpaceX's Starlink LEO satellite broadband project and thought you might enjoy it too:
    Starlink is a very big deal

    Based on what I gather from this detailed article, it appears that the planned constellation will provide sufficient bandwidth to cover all of rural America's needs if everyone were to switch over to it and rely on it to stream all of the TV they watch. The author sees Starlink's core use-case scenario as providing substantial service to significantly more densely populated suburban areas, while also being able to cover a decent chunk of urban internet usage (perhaps as backhaul for cellular network, he says). Remember, the entire constellation will be orbiting the earth -- all of it, from unpopulated oceans to the densest cities. So if the final constellation is dense enough to reasonably serve suburban America, then it should have surplus capacity when flying over far less densely populated areas.
     
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    tenthplanet

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    Astronomers are already dreading this, it's more light pollution in the night sky. I agree.
     
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    mschnebly

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    What do you have the Channels settings set for I have mine set for STREAMING QUALITY: Home Streaming is Original and Internet Streaming is 1080p 8Mbps
     
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    DBV1

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    I have both set to original and also tried 1080p with no difference. Can't figure out and so far neither can Channels App customer support. Strange as all other streaming services and Plex are great quality. Channels App looks like SD quality or slow framerates....
     
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    NashGuy

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    Yeah, that issue is discussed in the article I linked. The author maintains that Starlink will be an issue for astronomers during twilight but not after full nightfall.
     
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    Pokemon_Dad

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    spiderpumpkin

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    Tivo seems to only use social media to survey users. Too bad they aren't actively helping and answering users.
     
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    Saturn

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    I pulled the trigger on an HDHomeRun and set it up on my Plex server.

    I'm impressed by how easy it was to get working - the HDHomeRun was detected, the guide data mapping worked great... Finding the NFL game I wanted to watch and set it up to record all of them was painless.

    Live TV leaves much to be desired. The buffer seems small, it hiccups (pauses) badly for the first 10 seconds to a minute, and it...got very messed up when I was behind live TV and the next show started - it restarted playback from the buffer and then couldn't be skipped forward to live. This was all from a browser, not sure how things will work on a Roku yet.

    I forgot how well TiVo "Just Works" in these scenarios. However, Live TV is way down on my list of priorities (#1 being No Ads).
     
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  17. spiderpumpkin

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    I highly recommend using the HDHR with Channels DVR. Channels — Live TV, everywhere
     
  18. Pokemon_Dad

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    Thanks for the report! I second the recommendation of a free one-month trial of Channels. Plex is prettier, but I've never encountered the problems you described with Channels.

    When I was playing with Plex as a music and movies server, I often encountered delays due to buffering and transcoding. Plex seemed more sensitive to server speed and client speed than other solutions.

    Channels is not a 100% "TiVo experience" either, but it's much much closer, and among other points in its favor it indexes commercials far more consistently than TiVo.
     
  19. spiderpumpkin

    spiderpumpkin Say no to Hydra!

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    I still have a Tivo with Comcast, but I'm finding myself recording local OTA channels with my HDHR Quatro/Channels DVR instead. I really like the quality of the OTA video and sound compared to the Comcast feed.

    I have an HDHR Prime coming from eBay, bought a brand new one for $150, and I can't wait to use that with the Channels DVR. I like how Channels DVR can utilize multiple HDHRs, TV Everywhere and Locast.

    I plan to keep my Tivo Bolt Vox until it stops working or Tivo somehow messes up Encore TE3 or forces me to Hydra. When that day comes I'll be all set with my Channels DVR setup.
     
  20. Saturn

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    No Roku app (I could get fire sticks I suppose). No lifetime is a bummer and maybe a deal breaker. I may try it just to see how well it works though.
     

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