TiVo 3rd Tuner Activated--For Virgin.

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  1. Series3Sub

    Series3Sub Well-Known Member

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    Just read that Virgin with TiVo has activated a 3rd tuner. I don't think that is going to ever happen for us here in the US with retail TiVo's. However, it might be possible for some MSO boxes with TiVo. Still would love a 3rd tuner.
     
  2. nexter

    nexter New Member

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    oh that would be awesome, do the retail premieres even have the capability ? o_O
     
  3. caddyroger

    caddyroger New Member

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    Nope the premieres does not have a third tuner only 2.
     
  4. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    Given the hardware available when the premiere was made it is a chip choice

    one chip set can do 2 tuner sets of digital/OTA/analog
    other chip set does a set of 3 digital tuners

    for an MSO 3 digital tuners is a no brainer
     
  5. puffdaddy

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    The new premiere-based whole home DVR will have four tuners (in addition to the MoCA and streaming). I suspect that all four tuners will be enabled from the get go.
     
  6. mattack

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    "new premiere-based whole home DVR"

    I don't deny something like this will come out someday, but what are you basing this info on?
     
  7. innocentfreak

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    Probably the Suddenlink agreement. They announced last year they were working on a whole home TiVo due out the second half of 2011, and when you combine that with the push for the Tuning Adapter to support a minimum of 4 tuners, it points to 4 tuners. This was the same time they joined the MoCA group.

    Now whether or not we will see a retail box who knows. I still wish TiVo had released a Premiere XL with 4 tuners without OTA tuners since they could still have used the same chipsets. They could have then also released a cheap 4 tuner OTA only which would have eliminated the CableLabs cost.
     
  8. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I think the chipset options are either 2 cable/OTA or 3 cable only. I don't think there is actually an option for 4 tuners regardless of how they're configured.

    Also if they are making a 3 tuner box for Virgin it's possible they might offer it at retail as well.

    Dan
     
  9. innocentfreak

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    From what I remember bkdtv said they have a couple of chipset options. These may have changed though since this was around the launch of the Premiere. Here is one of his posts on it.

    On each chipset you have the option of
    1 clearqam and 1 OTA
    2 clearqam and 0 OTA
    0 clearqam and 2 OTA

    Since TiVo uses two chips they could have done
    2 Clearqam/2 OTA like they did
    3 Clearqam/1 OTA which might have confused customers since not an equal number of tuners
    4 Clearqam/0 OTA which would have been nice as an option
    1 Clearqam/3 OTA again an issue for not being equal
    0 Clearqam/4 OTA which might have been nice for those who don't want cable.

    The UK chipsets would be different most likely since I believe they use different tuning technology since they don't use things like CableCARD.
     
  10. shwru980r

    shwru980r Well-Known Member

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    Offer 3 types of Tivo. Cable, OTA or Mixed.
     
  11. puffdaddy

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    What I said was based upon the internals of the new units (hint: TSN 750 and A90), not the Suddenlink agreement (though that's the public evidence of it).
     
  12. innocentfreak

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    I would definitely welcome it and would upgrade my last TiVo HD for a 4 tuner TiVo.

    I wonder though if things like MoCA are still reserved for the MSO box rather than a retail box because previously TiVo said that probably wouldn't see it into a retail model.
     
  13. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    correct Dan and innocentFreak

    save for the fact that due to demodulator limitations you can only do 1 OTA per chip so only 2 OTA tuners as an option
     
  14. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Well-Known Member

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    Ahh didn't know that part.
     
  15. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    With OTA waning, they should certainly consider offering a cable only TiVo if they stay in the hardware business.
     
  16. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    Actually Tivo should push the tuners out of the box and make them USB or Network attached and let people buy what and as many as they want. If Satellite ever gets "cable carded" they could be back in the satellite business by just selling you a dish or direct tuner.

    I could see a Series 5 TiVo being a low cost no fee streaming device without DVR functionality built in - if you want it to become a DVR upgrade it by adding external storage & what ever tuners you want. Pay a sub fee that upgrades the software and now you have a DVR. I could also see Google TV devices being built like this if Google ever gets the bugs fixed.

    Thanks,
     
  17. orangeboy

    orangeboy yes, I AM orangeboy!

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    Is it?
     
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  19. aaronwt

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    Supposedly for the people that rely solely on OTA. But the group of people that rely on OTA and say VOD and other online services is probably going up.\

    there is no way for OTA only to replace cable/satellite. it needs to be supplemented from online sources to be able to replace cable/satellie.
     
  20. fasTLane

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    It certainly grew here. We lost our Directv HD channels on Tivo and have been relying on OTA for HD reception.
     

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