Time Warner Cable Tuning Adapter (ALL LOCATIONS) / Bugs & Issues

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  1. Teeps

    Teeps Well-Known Member

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    Update: FIOS still not available in my area.... :-(
     
  2. ncbill

    ncbill Active Member TCF Club

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    So the cc & ta have arrived.

    Is there a way to know which channels use sdv in my area?

    I'm thinking of simply using the cc and not the ta, since the latter seems to cause the most problems.
     
  3. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    I've never heard of an easy way. I suspect it would just be easier to run without the TA and see what channels from your expected lineup are missing. In my TWC region it's about half the HD channels.

    What scares me is I think the TA will become essential to get any channels after your TWC region switches to auto HD/SD, in which there is only one number for a channel and the system decides whether to send you the HD or SD version. I believe all TWC regions will be switching to that eventually. Some already have. I would love to be assured my fear is wrong -- anyone know for sure?
     
  4. Teeps

    Teeps Well-Known Member

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    If your TiVo is not modified and has a solid power supply.
    The T/A should not be a problem

    Putting the T/A on a lamp timer* is the easiest solution to most T/A related problems.

    * cut power to ta for 4 hours a day.
     
  5. gkottner

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    Here's a link to a post I made listing everything I get with a cable card but without a tuning adapter with TWC Cincinnati. I have the standard package.
    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=10223284#post10223284
     
  6. hforman

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    What I found with Spectrum in Orange County, California is that, if you get some off-the-wall answer from someone in advanced support, just call again and you will get an entirely different answer from someone else and tell you NOT to do what the other tech said or it could be bad.... One tech wanted the service guy to rewire my TA with a spliter coming off the TA in some weird combination.
     
  7. dougdingle

    dougdingle HD Tech

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    There are only two ways to wire the cable feed with a TA.

    First way is to come from the incoming cable into the TA, then out of the TA to the TiVo. So the cable signal goes through the TA, then to the TiVo.

    Second way is to come from the incoming cable to a two way splitter. One output from the splitter goes into the TA, the other output from the splitter goes into the TiVo. So the cable signal does not go through the TA to the TiVo, but directly to it.

    I prefer the second way, as it's one less variable to consider when things don't work right.
     
  8. cwoody222

    cwoody222 Well-Known Member

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    So here's a new one.

    Last weekend I set my father's new Bolt (upgrade offer), which was replacing a Premier. Moved the CC and then got the TA working. Took 2 calls (the MOCA adapter caused the TiVo to freak out and not pair... wasn't until I figured that out and called back that it all worked). The operator suggested he could save $50/mo by switching to a new Spectrum plan, but he had to swap out modems, for the faster speed. Deal!

    Two days later, my father went to the local office and swapped the modem and took the new price/offer. He got home, and the TA had stopped working. It was blinking forever.

    He called a few days later and was told there was an "outage" in the area and they couldn't do anything. Next day, same "outage". I called and demanded to talk to the CC support (the direct line no longer works). Turns out the person at the office when he swapped the modem never completed the order, it was left as an "open work order" so the TA wasn't working. The CC operator was able to close it on his end and then it all worked.

    It's always something with them!

    So happy I have Fios, 1 single CC, built-in MOCA, and a Mini w/ my Roamio… so much easier!
     
  9. hforman

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    My "problem" keeps rearing its head. I'm convinced a neighbor is running MOCA without a MOCA filter and their Internet is spilling over into my cable as I noticed they still have a cable connected to Spectrum. I don't want to go with FIOS because the company providing it (Frontier) was doing my land line and couldn't support it and the service was AWFUL. I mean, if they can't do POTS, do you think I'd trust these idiots with fiber channel? Not a chance. At least with Spectrum, they send people over to your house that have a vague idea of what they are doing. Even if two service guys threw up their hands and said "I can't fix this" and left. Yes, and you get some first-level Tuning Adapter support now from people who don't have a clue and prefer to lie to you thinking you are "just a customer" and don't know much (v. being a 20 year tuning adapter customer).

    If interested, if my TA goes into "broadcast Only" mode, I can:

    a) wait and it fixes itself (magic?)
    b) wait, but I have to power reboot the TA and or the cable box (many times over 2-3 weeks)
    c) May have to reseat the cable card and sometimes along with the USB cable. No idea what that does but it doesn't always work.

    Spectrum (when the issue happens) tells me they can't access the TA box (no kidding) but they get upset when I remind them the household wiring was bypassed completely on some of the tests.

    It's working for now. Except for weird issues with my real Cisco cable box for my series 2 Tivo upstairs.
     
  10. Teeps

    Teeps Well-Known Member

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    Wondering what was the new save 50 bucks deal?
     
  11. hforman

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    Yeah, I was thinking that myself because of what I went through.

    I had a Time Warner Account. Even when Spectrum picked up TW, I stayed with my TW plan. But then I was trying to get better cable prices and they managed to "interpret" what I was saying (was only an inquiry) as "Yeah, go pull the plug on my TW account details" so they moved me to Spectrum plans where they gave me 100 MB/sec BUT, I only needed 50 at the most (I don't do much streaming -- what I really needed at the time was faster UPLOAD speed in order to use SKYPE better).

    I think the $50 deal was coming from what the poster said was CC, probably Cox Cable -- guess. So, CWOODY222 would have to answer that one. I'd go with FIOS if the price was better for both the cable TV and Internet but NOT with Frontier. Spectrum is OK if you realize you have to call several times to get someone who knows what they are talking about (technically) and who isn't going to lie to you.
     
  12. Teeps

    Teeps Well-Known Member

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    Understood. I would drop time warner/expectrum in a hot minute if FIOS came to town.
    I've never thought about faster upload speed, what did they quote you for a bump in upload speed?
     
  13. hforman

    hforman Member

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    I think I went from 10 to 12 mbps. Remember that your ISP doesn't really want you running a "server" from your home. They just forget about things like "Skype". I heard FIOS was, at one point, 50 down and 50 up. I didn't go with 300 down because I don't want to pay for bandwidth that I don't use. If I ever go with "streaming", that might change. They are starting to offer 950 down (no idea on the upload speed) but, once again, I could have lived with just 50. Since I am retired and don't skype anymore, it is all irrelevant. I won't go with FIOS as long as Frontier is running the show here. But I never say "never".
     
  14. cwoody222

    cwoody222 Well-Known Member

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    It was switching from legacy TWC plan to a Spectrum plan.
     
  15. Teeps

    Teeps Well-Known Member

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    That's what I thought.

    Do you have their phone service too?
    Other than 100mps download, what else did you get for $50 less?

    I've got TW legacy too, no phone; cable tv, internet, 3 cable cards and 2 tuning adapters.
    To get the channels I want (plus about another 100 or more that I don't) my plan looks like this:
    • DIGITAL ACCESS
    • STANDARD TV
    • STARTER TV
    • VARIETY PASS
    • VARIETY PASS PLUS
    Internet is 50mps download which is typically closer to 70mps; but I don't stream other than some youtube videos so 50 is adequate for my usage.
    All that for just under 150 a month!
    I would love to down grade the bill to 100 a month; but I fear it won't be the same offerings plus how long is the $50 less going to last?
     
  16. cwoody222

    cwoody222 Well-Known Member

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    I'm not 100% sure on the details; it was my parents' plan (I was calling on their behalf).

    They have phone service, Internet and cable + HBO. I don't know which cable plan but they basically get "everything" except other premiums besides HBO. They have 2 CC and 2 tuning adapters and rent a modem as well.

    TWC plan was approx. $250/mo. New Spectrum plan was approx. $200/mo (not a promo price) and everything was kept the same except the Internet speed went from 50mps to 150mps, requiring a new modem. That's PLENTY speed for them; they have a single desktop computer and not even any smartphones on their WIFi!
     
  17. cwoody222

    cwoody222 Well-Known Member

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    Last year I moved and was able to switch from TWC to Fios. Honestly I pay about the same with Fios, but my speeds are better (not so much after Spectrum), especially uploads, if you care about that.

    But my service is rock solid plus I just hated TWC with a passion so I'd rather pay the $ to VZ than to TWC/Spectrum.

    When my promo deal runs out next year I'll have to seriously look at things because at that point I'll end up paying significantly more than I would with Spectrum.
     
  18. Teeps

    Teeps Well-Known Member

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    250 a month! And I thought my bill at a buck fifty was outrageous.
    Guess I'll shut up and keep moving along.
     

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