Time Warner Cable May Drop CBS From Its TV Lineup

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  1. aindik

    aindik Well-Known Member

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    The "networks" might be happy, but there are a lot more than just the networks who have TV broadcasting licenses.
     
  2. brianric

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    The airspace that the FCC is talking about is the former frequencies that were devoted to the analog stations. Quite frankly if Fox and CBS decided to drop their OTA broadcast is should be an automatic forfeiture of those frequencies with no compensation by the government.
     
  3. lpwcomp

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    The networks aren't the ones holding the broadcast licenses. it is the broadcast stations, most of which are not owned by a network and not all of which are even affiliated with a network.
     
  4. jsmeeker

    jsmeeker Notable Member TCF Club

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    If this drags into football season, I am gonna need to figure out if I can setup some sort of indoor antenna. Though I don't quite know where I would put it.
     
  5. aindik

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    The analog stations and the digital stations are all in the same set of frequencies, except for channels 52-69 which the FCC already took back as part of the digital transition, and auctioned off in 2009.
     
  6. LoadStar

    LoadStar LOAD"*",8,1

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    Try a Mohu Leaf. You could easily hang it behind a poster or other artwork on the wall, or behind an entertainment center, or possibly even just attached to the back of the TV itself.
     
  7. jsmeeker

    jsmeeker Notable Member TCF Club

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    wow.. That's awesome. If it comes to it, I'll seriously give it consideration.

    Thanks.
     
  8. WhiskeyTango

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    This hasn't even come close to some of the worst blackouts (some of these were regional).

    AMC and Dish was over 3 months.
    Tribune and Cablevision was two months.
    Northwest Broadcasting and Directv was 9 weeks.
    Cordillera Communications and Time Warner was over 5 months.
    Comcast Sportsnet and Directv has been 5 months and is still ongoing.
     
  9. aindik

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    Comcast SportsNet Philly and DirecTV has lasted for decades. :)
     
  10. Inundated

    Inundated Face For Radio TCF Club

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    Raycom Media (local affiliate owner) and Dish was about 10 days.
     
  11. Steveknj

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    Dish and all of the NY sports networks have been pretty much for years.

    DirecTV and Comcast over the old Vs. sports network (now NBCSN) lasted most of a full hockey season.

    It may be one of the longest between a cable provider and a big 4 network O&O. If I'm TWC, and this heads into football season, I'm offering free OTA antennas to all my customers who want one.

    I have a hard time "choosing sides" in these disputes. I know if the shoe was reversed and a TW channel and a CBS owned cable company, we'd see the same thing. I've seen that happen more than once. I always cite the Cablevision and MSG fights before CV owned them. And then after CV bought them, they had the same exact fight with TW over the channels that they fought AGAINST when MSG was NOT owned by them.

    Ultimately, the consumer loses as we pay for this. And btw, the consumer ultimately pays for the advertising by both sides to fight against this!!
     
  12. mlsnyc

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    This looks great! Only problem is when I list my address in NYC the list of channels it thinks I should get doesn't include CBS. But the map for the Ultimate model covers a lot of the metro area, and I would think CBS would have some tower within that pretty large region.
     
  13. aindik

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    Any address that's in NYC (literally the five boroughs) should be within 35 miles of the transmitter for WCBS-TV, which, like most everyone else, is at the top of the Empire State Building.
     
  14. Steveknj

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    Off topic but curious. Anyone know if there are plans to move the antennas to the Freedom Tower when it's complete? It will be taller than the ESB (well I think it's already taller). The antennas used to be on one of the WTC buildings.
     
  15. aindik

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    I haven't read anything but I would think the existence of the Freedom Tower would screw up reception of TV signals from ESB. Which, if true, would mean they'd have to move.

    FM radio transmitters have always been on ESB even pre 9/11 and will probably stay there.
     
  16. mlsnyc

    mlsnyc Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    That's what I figured. Curious why their list wouldn't show it. But whatever the case I think both the base and ultimate indoor models are priced reasonably enough for me to check this out. May also eventually shove aside the inertia on my part that keeps me tethered to cable.
     
  17. marrone

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    I thought I read that the the credit card billing address has to be in their viewing area. Or have you found otherwise?

    Also, what kinds of speeds have you gotten with Witopia (or whatever you currently use)?

    -Mike
     
  18. Martyp

    Martyp Just a Daddyman

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    I am one of the few that I wish directv would let me drop the sports channels.

    They are spouse to be included free with my package but was getting charged a 3.00 a month fee.

    They gave me a credit for the next year to cover it, but would,love ala cart pricing I could get the channels I want and even if it did not lower my bill all that much I would still love it
     
  19. Bob Coxner

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    You could get a prepaid credit card to avoid any billing address questions. Or, it's a bit more work but you can also add a second address to your credit card billing profile. You could use a fake NYC address. Also, you get the first month free with Aereo.

    Oddly enough, I was just testing my speeds a few minutes ago using http://www.speedtest.net/. I have the 20mbps package from TWC. I had Witopia use their Quick Connect feature, which automatically connects you to the nearest and best server. In my case that's about 100 miles away in Austin, Texas. My speed was almost identical without the VPN and with it. 22mbps down and 2.25mbps up. Pings were both around 50.

    I then tested using a server in New York City. 20mbps down and 2.1mpbs up. So, there was about a 10% drop in speed using the NYC server but you would obviously never notice it at these speeds. Ping 50.

    I then connected to a server in London, the one I use when I want to watch the BBC. 14.5mb down, 2.1mb up. Still excellent speed, although the ping was pretty high at 215. My Pandora music did stop, with a notice that they're only permitted to stream to the US. :)

    As always, YMMV.
     
  20. Steveknj

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    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/16/b...ast-until-nfl-season.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

    So if CBS is not on TWC at the start of the NFL season, could advertisers on those games demand a rebate? TWC I believe is still the major Cable provider in Manhattan (not sure about the other boroughs). That would be a significant chunk of viewers in the most lucrative market. If that happens, that could prod CBS to lower their demands.
     

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