Time required to transfer programs

Discussion in 'TiVo Bolt DVR/Streamer' started by copwriter, Aug 4, 2018.

  1. JoeKustra

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    Hydra=TE4=21.*

    Encore=TE3=20.* (that's what your Premiere uses)

    https://explore.tivo.com/content/dam/tivo/explore/how-to/TiVoExperience_VG.pdf

    In case: How to Rollback Hydra from Roamio and Mini's v1 (works on Bolt too)
     
  2. copwriter

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    Okay, another update: checking off individual programs to transfer over TiVo Online works, while marking them all to transfer doesn't. I tried transferring one, then a batch of four, and now I've marked 60 programs to transfer. So far, so good. Transfer time is about eight minutes for every hour of HD content.

    I truly appreciate the help I've received here. Thanks to you all.
     
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  4. JoeKustra

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    Keep this in mind. To rollback will wipe your new Bolt. You may wish to see how much you like it.

    Check post 15. Do the math.
     
  5. copwriter

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    Network diagnostics is reporting 48-54 Mb/s for transfers. If I can get this set up better, I can put the Premiere on a wired Ethernet connection in another room (close to the router) and improve that. Each hour of programming is taking between 8-10 minutes to transfer. I've got time and can live with that.
     
  6. careys

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    Why is that? I could only find it on the Premiere's HD menu system. Are they discouraging multiple boxes now. I would rather not have to go to another device to get to Tivo.com and initiate a transfer, so I suppose my real question is 'do you know if they plan to add it to Hydra?'
     
  7. HerronScott

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    No one here knows but I would not count on it coming back (many people here would be happy if it did though since that would probably re-enable transfers from PC's also).

    Scott
     
  8. copwriter

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    Update: transfers have stalled again. My last attempt to transfer 60 programs worked, but when I tried pushing my luck with 100 overnight, it stalled after about ten were transferred. I've tried ordering transfers of between one and ten programs, and none of them are going through. They all appear in the To Do list, but they're not doing anything past that. I'm ordering the transfers over TiVo Online, as there is no option to do so within the Bolt/Hydra(?) software.

    I tried moving my CableCard over from the Premiere to the Bolt. I got "Error 61" with instructions to call the cable company. I called Charter (never a fulfilling experience), and they were unable to fix the problem remotely. I put the CableCard back into the Premiere, and it went back to working the way it always has. I have a service call scheduled for tomorrow.

    With the Premiere and my Series 2 before that, when I was doing something with the onscreen menus, a left arrow/left rocker press allowed me to back out one step to the previous menu. That doesn't work with the Bolt. I'm having to hit the TiVo button to go back up to the top menu each time, which is annoying. Is there a way to get the left-arrow functionality back?
     
  9. HerronScott

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    Assuming you are on Hydra, Back button replaced the left arrow.

    Scott
     
  10. ThAbtO

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    That is a pairing issue where just swapping card just will not work. Would need to be paired again, They might need to wipe the device info for the device and re-enter anew.
     
  11. copwriter

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    Well, there is a new development in the continuing saga of copwriter's TiVo Bolt+.

    The Spectrum (cable TV) service guy was here this morning, and was able to pair the existing CableCard with the new TiVo box. He also connected a "tuning adapter" (looks like an old 56Kb modem) that was also connected to the Premiere with a USB cable, telling me that without it, I might not get all the channels on my plan. To the other USB port, he connected the Wi-Fi adapter from the Premiere. I have no idea why he connected the Wi-Fi adapter, as the Bolt has is own built-in Wi-Fi. We even talked about that. The box seemed to be working fine when he left.

    I needed to switch some cables around. The Premiere had been connected to the TV through a Yamaha A/V receiver, and the Bolt's HDMI cable ran directly to an external input on the TV. I switched the HDMI cable from the Premiere to the Bolt, and unplugged the Wi-Fi adapter. I then re-booted (power cycled) the Bolt. That was my fatal mistake.

    The TiVo logo screen came up, followed by the "Just a few minutes more..." screen, followed by nothing. The green light on the front of the Bolt went out, and the screen was blank. I could hear the drive running inside, but otherwise, it was dead. I tried several restarts with and without connections, and went through a similar process a few minutes later with TiVo tech support. The upshot is that I am RMA-ing the Bolt I have, and they are sending me a new one.

    With the new one, I'll have the Bolt wired in to my home theater system the way it will be for the long haul when the cable service guy comes back to re-pair the CableCard. My bet is that Spectrum will charge me for the service call, because they like to do that whenever they can.

    In the meantime, since the CableCard is paired to the Bolt, I have no TV reception capability.
     
  12. JoeKustra

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    Have you tried? The cable card should still have a channel map.
     
  13. copwriter

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    Not happening. The CableCard screen says " NO CHANNELS AVAILABLE." I can watch my recorded content and stream stuff from Netflix and Amazon Prime, but nothing from cable channels. How will I go on, never knowing whether Captain Sandy will fire Hannah on Below Deck? :(
     
  14. bdspilot

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    Hi all just got new Tivo Bolt VOX 3TB. I have a Roamio Pro with shows I'd like to transfer, I see that I can transfer non copyright shows via online. My question is if I upgrade the Roamio to Hydra can I copy all shows via the tivo menu? Can you check transfer speed in Hydra or is that just available in the old interface.
     
  15. JoeKustra

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    The Transfer History is only on TE3. TiVo Online can still transfer files to a Hydra TiVo.
     
  16. bdspilot

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    BTW I decided to give the new interface a chance for at least a couple weeks before I commit and transfer all shows. I really expected to hate the new interface, but for the most part I like it. I like the guide, voice, the speed and it works well with the new mini VOX I got. My least favorite thing so far is "My Shows". Seems clunky and not wife friendly yet.
     
  17. copwriter

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    I thought I would close this out by posting the final outcome.

    After the Charter tech registered the CableCard to the Bolt, I rebooted the system and couldn’t get it to boot fully. The drive would start, then shut down after two minutes or so. I called TiVo and they agreed to RMA the unit. They sent me a shipping label and instructions to send back the box only, and to keep everything else.

    A week later, the replacement Bolt (a refurb, I think, but everything looked new) arrived. It was a complete set, so now I have two remotes, power supplies, etc. It set up fine. I pulled the CableCard out of the Premiere, put it in the Bolt, and connected the tuning adapter. It worked on the first try, no Charter tech required.

    I’ve been transferring programs from the Premiere to the Bolt via TiVo Online. I set up the Premeire in my home office, where the router is installed, and connected it to power and an Ethernet cable. The transfers have gone smoothly, in batches ranging from 25 to over 100 programs at a time. The last batch is finishing now.

    I am having one problem I will post in a new thread, as it doesn’t apply to program transfers—at least, I don’t think it does. I’m still getting used to the new interface. I don’t see much of an advantage to the old one, plus it doesn’t work as well with my Harmony Hub remote.

    Once again, thanks to everyone here who helped me puzzle this out.
     
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  18. PoohLuvsTIVO

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    Another thing the Bolt does badly. Takes FOREVER TO TRANSFER ANYTHING FROM ONE UNIT TO ANOTHER! Wish I never bought the Bolt.
     
  19. HerronScott

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    The Bolt should have the fastest transfer times for all TiVo's with 1Gbps network port and the fastest processor so you need to look at what your network connectivity is and see what's limiting it (older TiVo's, slow network ports or miss-negotiation of speed, etc). Describe what your network connections are for each TiVo (speed and devices they are connected to as well as any in between devices such as switches) and what each model TiVo is (one is obviously the Bolt) and what speeds/time are you getting per hour of show.

    You really need to ask for help when you have problems so people can try to help you resolve them rather than complaining first.

    Scott
     
  20. aaronwt

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    ??? Just the opposite here. I see up to 500Mb/s transfer rates for each show when transferring Bolt to Bolt. And when transferring Bolt to PC I see over 300Mb/s transfer rates for each show transferred..

    Something is wrong if you are seeing very slow speeds. The Bolt is the fastest TiVo for transfers that has ever been made.
     

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