This is what I expected

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream 4K' started by Dan203, May 13, 2020.

  1. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Then they should make a Mini that runs on Android TV so we can have the Mini AND access to all the apps in the same device. They've been making an MSO Android TV device for a couple years now that runs on essentially the same Broadcom chipset as the Mini. Why not just release that as a consumer device?
     
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  2. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Actually it's exactly not that, which is what most of us don't like about it. It's basically just a vanilla Android TV device with a TiVo app that you can't delete. That's all. You could use the device without ever seeing the TiVo UI if you wanted. And that TiVo UI is not anything like any TiVo UI you've ever used anyway. If it weren't for the little TiVo guy icon in the corner and the use of "My Shows" you'd never even know it was a TiVo app.

    I actually wanted a device with the 1 UI like you're describing, but that's not what we got.
     
  3. trip1eX

    trip1eX imo, afaik, feels like to me, *exceptions, ~aprox

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    No I expected it to be what it is - a run of the mill rough around the edges 1st gen lower end streaming box.

    I never believed in the 1 UI future. I never thought Tivo would deliver on it based on their dvrs and TE4 and them laying off people and going thru mergers. I also thought the 1 UI future is over-rated based on using my other streaming device. So I never thought that was going to amount to anything.
     
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    I’m confused. I just assumed that the play pause buttons were in the center circle area on the remote and just not labeled. Not having a fast forward, play/pause, and rewind buttons on the remote seems pretty strange.
     
  5. Bierboy

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    This is SO true. I've told TiVo repeatedly that this is pure garbage. But, for some reason, they don't listen to me.
     
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  6. moyekj

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    Those are select and arrow keys. The select key is not a dedicated play/pause button that many streaming device remotes have. For video applications you can use the select key to get to pause/play function, but usually that means 2 or more presses of the button to accomplish that versus a dedicated button to perform the function with 1 press.
     
  7. Dan Clarke

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    I bought the stream because I miss the TiVo interface and remote.

    I have a 2016 Sony 4K TV..and it has android TV built in...but it is very slow. I've used a Roku stick (slow), an Ultra (fast but for some reason the stupid volume display is always on the TV and the Roku overheats often), and an AppleTV (great device, no ads, horrid remote).

    I really thought I was getting something other than an Android stick but the TiVo Stream app is useless if you have YTTV. Sling isn't a bad service, it's just not for me because of a lack of locals (yes you can use Locast but no DVR there)....And no HBO go on the stream app but HBO Now? Weird.

    This could be something...but it really feels like an alpha or beta. And how do they screw up CEC?
     
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  8. shwru980r

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    The only reason I can think of is that the MSO's forbid them from from doing so.
     
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    At least because of the STream 4K I am now aware of the Reelgood app. Which does a much better job of keeping track of my streaming shows than the TiVo app does.
     
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  10. tivolocity

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    I knew it wasn't going to be like the Mini. I certainly hoped it would eventually be a replacement for my aging Minis. But, based on the comments I've been seeing in this forum, even if the Stream 4K is able to stream from my Bolt someday, I'm not sure I'm going to want it. There are a lot of negative comments. People have started returning it. Some of the positive comments sound more like people trying to talk themselves into liking it. There are some that genuinely like it. And, among those are ones who have completely disabled the TiVo features. :tearsofjoy:
     
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    I think you have to separate Android TV general items (UI of home screen/main launcher, way apps behave in their Android TV implementation, etc.) vs. TiVo Stream 4k specific items (the Stream app itself, the remote, settings for HDR/DV, etc.). Many of the complaints seem to be about Android TV, but some of the TiVoS4K item's will likely be improved with bug fixes and new releases. Obviously the remote will not change form factors anytime soon. Again, this is a $50 dongle, not a $200 Shield.

    For me, it is a nice replacement for a Nexus Player, but I knew what I was getting with Android TV.
     
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  12. manhole

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    This is what I thought we were going to get with the Edge.
     
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  13. siratfus

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    But whatever that video is, "Next-Gen Platform for managed Android TV," is that still down the pipeline? Or was this tivo stream app supposed to be it?
     
  14. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    That's a current TiVo product that they offer to MSOs and is actually deployed in a few markets. It's been offered since December 2018.
     
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  15. siratfus

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    From the looks of it, it integrates your DVR recordings? Yeah, why can't we have this? WTF. LOL! That would have been awesome.
     
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  16. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    It doesn’t have a built in DVR, but it uses the cloud DVR of the MSO and manages them basically like a regular TiVo does.
     
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