Things 4k Stream Can and cannot do?

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream 4K' started by WPO, May 8, 2020.

  1. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    So is SDR really one of the things the TiVo Stream 4K can't do?o_O

    I got mine setup a short time ago. At least the setup process wasn't too bad. And the Firmware install only took 3.5 minutes from when it started downloading to the time the menu came up after rebooting.

    But mine seems to always want to send out HDR. Either HDR10 or DOlby Vision. I see no way to send out SDR. Or am I missing something?
    That was was the reason I didn't use my ATV 4K initially until they patched it to allow it to properly switch between SDR, HDR10, and DOlby Vision.

    Or am I missing a setting? Because a normal device will automatically switch between SDR, HDR10, and Dolby Vision as needed.
    I have no desire to watch HDR10 content in Dolby Vision or SDR content in Dolby Vision.
     
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  2. brotony

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    I don't have this device but nearly ordered it.

    No auto dynamic range setting is another complaint I've also read in these forums.

    I've also saw reports that framerate is manual. 60 fps is typical if using the native panel settings.

    Just like the ATV4K, I didn't buy until the match dynamic range and match framerate settings came out to beta. I anxiously watched and grabbed it once beta with matching API was released. Rumor and speculation wasn't enough to get me to jump. I jumped on the Fire TV 4KS but what a disappointment with framerate matching in apps outside of Amazon world.

    Auto resolution is another feature is like to see for a pure native user mode setting. I certainly wish manufacturers would stop thinking they know best what users want. Native doesn't have to be default; just optional. Kind of a must have but becoming a wish unrealized. C'mon TiVo, you make DVRs; I thought you would get that?

    So close to pulling the trigger on this one but helpful posts like this got me over that. Thanks.

    I wonder what Google is going to release next? Doubtful it's a game changer. Still cautiously optimistic.

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  3. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    The integration with Sling doesn’t work as expected. I recorded a couple of things. They show up in the TiVo UI and say "1 recording" but when I click on it I get a generic link to Sling for the whole show with no easy way to get to the DVR recordings. I expected it to have links to the episodes I actually recorded.
     
  4. Rikki_Rocket

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    YES! EXACTLY THIS !!
    I really don’t want to pay monthly for channels I can get for free OTA in HD quality.
    And especially since TiVo sells OTA DVRs - an EDGE/Bolt plus the Stream 4K covers everything. I don’t get all of the complaints about Sling.
     
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  5. Rikki_Rocket

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    Are you seeing this behavior under “My Shows” In the TiVo Stream interface? The one you recorded should show up there.

    I’ll try and record a show later and let you know what I see.
     
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  6. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Yeah when I highlight the show it says "9 episodes|1 recording", but when I click it all I get is the little link that says "available on Sling". No mention of the episode I recorded.
     
  7. schatham

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    Then what happens when you select the link?

    How many hours recording? Did they offer 200? I've seen reports Tivo users get 200 hours.
     
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  8. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    It takes me to the general show in Sling with zero reference to my DVR recording and a list of past and future episodes available on VOD. For the record I recorded an episode of Two Broke Girls because that happened to be on.

    I set up the DVR+ plan on Blue+Orange so I assume I got the max DVR space they offer.
     
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  9. jasbur

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    I thought for sure that this would have an app that would give you the functionality of a TiVo mini. Without it, I don’t see the point.
     
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  10. schatham

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    When your in my shows, look top right it says recording % full. Select that and it should open all your DVR recording with options to alter recordings. At least it did on Roku and I'm just looking at a video for this because I don't have mine yet.
     
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  11. Pokemon_Dad

    Pokemon_Dad Ruler of Unown UI

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    The latest corporate owners and execs decided the installed base of existing customers is a "distraction" at this time. Maybe they'll add that later, maybe they won't.
     
  12. Rikki_Rocket

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    I’m having the same issue as you. In My Shows, it shows up as “1 Recording” Recordings:10% Full. But there is no way to play it. Clicking on the show and then the sling link only takes me to the future episodes (like you found). This is a pretty big bug.

    For the record, my show did actually record. If you go into the Sling app thorough the Android TV interface it was there and I played it. I’ll bet your show actually recorded as well.

    P.S. Nothing wrong with watching Two Broke Girls - no judgement here.
     
  13. Rikki_Rocket

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    No - not possible on TiVo Stream 4K. The “Recordings % full” in top right corner is view only - can’t click on it.
     
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  14. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Here is a short video showing what it does...

     
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  15. foghorn2

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    Might as well use the native Sling App, the Tivo app has lots to be desired. So far its just a troll app, Its trying to integrate things, which is a good thing, but the execution so far is terrible.
     
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  16. mlbrowninsc

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    Yeah i disabled the TiVo app and sling. YouTube tv runs ok on it. It’s a good alternative to fire stick. I’ll keep it for secondary tv maybe. Bolt still rules the main tv.


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  17. Rodney

    Rodney TiVo'd since 9/17/01

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    What are they thinking?
    "Hey I know! Let's alienate our existing customer base instead of putting a Tivo App on this to extend our ecosystem. That will make us just like the other, more established streaming devices and not be a differentiator."

    I would have pre-ordered this device had they done that. Instead, I think I'll just get a Roku stick.
     
  18. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    The ROku Stick is certainly more mature. But I'm hoping that TiVo has a few updates rather quickly to address some issues. For my second stream i will wait until the end of the return period before I decide to open it or return it(Assuming FedEx ever delivers it). But I will definitely be keeping the Stream 4k that I've already opened and been using.
     
  19. osu1991

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    I'm not liking using Philo with it, half the time I don't get pictures in the tiles while fast forwarding, just black squares, making it useless.
    The minuses are outweighing the positives now. Even disabling the Tivo app, it's still pinned to the home screen with tivo recommendations. :(

    I don't think I'll open the 2nd one I ordered. I'll look at returning it or throwing it in with dvr and mini's as I disconnect them to sell.
     
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  20. cybergrimes

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    Mine is out for delivery today. I think I will keep it to watch for updates but the others that are coming I am going to refuse delivery so I don't have to eat return shipping fees.
     

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