The West Wing 1/22/2006 (S07E12) "Duck & Cover"

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by dswallow, Jan 22, 2006.

  1. Exubesq

    Exubesq New Member

    Mar 17, 2005


    Did you get any response to your inquiry? I was outvoted by the football watching crowd and would very much like to see the ep. Please let me know if anyone got back to you so I can beg for a copy as well.
  2. MrGreg

    MrGreg New Member

    May 2, 2003
    So I guess the MS is in remission right now? Last season the President could barely function, and now he seems fine.
  3. busyba

    busyba The Funcooker

    Feb 5, 2003
    Was th VP debate episode the last one to film before John Spencer died? I would have thought that the lag between wrapping principle photography and going on the air was such that they'd have at least one or two more episodes in the can before the heart attack, but the "Leo's in Ohio" throwaway makes it seem like that wasn't the case.
  4. edc

    edc Active Member

    Mar 24, 2002
    The evacuation stuff was clearly the WW version of Hurricane Rita and Houston.

    Hurricanes are not like nuclear incidents. Houston knew days ahead of time, has a hurricane evacuation plan, yet the stalled cars, lack of gas, gridlock, and "When exactly do we make the freeways all go away from the shore?" actually happened.
  5. hawkamer

    hawkamer Narm...

    Jun 4, 2002
    Tampa, FL


    I'm pretty sure we have more to see of John Spencer's work on the West Wing.

    This year, in juggling the various story lines, it's not out-of-place to see a major character not used.
  6. ADG

    ADG Allan

    Aug 19, 2003
    New Jersey, USA
    There were 5 episodes "in the can" when John Spencer died.
  7. newsposter

    newsposter Poster of News

    Aug 18, 2002
    SE PA
    Was he a writer for the show or does he have influence? I'd think the writers generally tell the actors what to do/say even if it's against their beliefs.
  8. jgickler

    jgickler Mr. Rolleyes

    Apr 7, 2000
    Princeton, Iowa
    I definately think that Sheen would have influence with the producers, and they are the ones who tell the writers what to do. While it is an ensemble cast, Sheen is clearly the big name on the cast, and I assume has the influence to suggest possible story lines to the producers/writers.

    I also doubt that Sheen would agree to be associated in any way with a position in which he has been so vocal in the past. This is a guy who has been arrested as part of protesting nuclear power, do you really think he would portray a character that went against such a deeply held belief?

    I don't have any proof of this, but my guess is that Sheen had some influence on the story line, and certainly his spirited argument with Alda was fueled by his true feelings on the issue.
  9. dsb411

    dsb411 Member

    Sep 29, 2004
    I liked it when Will blamed Toby for whatever he thought CJ was going to yell at him for.
  10. Btrman

    Btrman New Member

    Apr 14, 2003
    NYC suburbs
    I liked the episode, but I always get angry when TV or movies have complete falsities about nuclear power. The nuke plant sotry on 24 was onew of the reasons I stopped watching that show.

    There would be at least 2 RHR lines (residual heat removal) in any plant, and there would also be at least one other way to bypass a stuck valve.

    They would not be able to build a bypass line to get coolant to the reactor. The welds that these pipes need take very skilled work and rigourous testing. Running a temporary line would have increased danger to the pulbic.

    The NRC engineers would not go into a plant to do any kind of physcial labor because they arent trained to. If anyone would have gone in, it would have been plant workers.

    The NRC, FEMA or POTUS would not be making operational decisions at the plant. They do not have the authority by law, and it would be just plain dangerous. Every nuke plant is somewhat different and nuke plant operators take extensive training to run a plant. They wrote it as if it were a military action, quite laughable.

    I could go on, but as my wife says, its just a tv show.
  11. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

    Apr 16, 2003
    I agree with your points. However, I'd venture to guess that it's not just Sheen among the cast and crew that holds this view. For the most part, the positions of Bartlett and the administration are fairly liberal and jive with the standard Hollywood rhetoric. Therefore, there's no reason to believe that Sheen had to advocate for an episode that lampooned nuclear power. It's very probable that most of the producers and writers share his views and wanted to do that story as well.

    I always find it laughable when Hollywood tries to demonize something and they don't even get the facts straight.
  12. dswallow

    dswallow Save the ModeratŠ¾r TCF Club

    Dec 3, 2000
    It's not like they get the facts straight when they try to praise something, either.

    It all balances out.
  13. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

    Apr 16, 2003

    Good point.
  14. IJustLikeTivo

    IJustLikeTivo Active Member

    Oct 3, 2001
    Nope, I finally managed to get a bitorrent of the show.
  15. toddman

    toddman The Word of Todd

    Mar 28, 2004

    Probably. Although I doubt he's "fine." That's how MS can affect people. There are varying degrees of the disease, but with some people, they're in a wheelchair for a time, and can walk unassisted at other times.

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