The Walking Dead S04E04: "Indifference" 11.04.13

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  1. Nov 5, 2013 #61 of 104

    zalusky Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Apr 5, 2002
    Cupertino, CA


    Well the Farm season finale showed that the walkers move in a herd toward some stimulus.
    So I would imagine they were all leaving town to go somewhere. They just moved around to the side of the herd.

    Now perhaps we will see the reason for the herd in a subsequent episode.
  2. Nov 5, 2013 #62 of 104

    Dawghows Liberal Elitist

    May 17, 2001
    Well, the alternative to telling everyone would be either a) never solving the case or b) pinning it on someone else in the prison. Neither of these is an acceptable course in the long run.
  3. Nov 5, 2013 #63 of 104

    sharkster Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Jul 3, 2004
    Yeah, you're right. I just felt that, at the time Carol made that decision, I believe she totally thought she was doing the right thing to protect the population. Then it didn't turn out that well and I guess I thought it could possibly go away. That was foolish thinking on my part.
  4. Nov 6, 2013 #64 of 104

    Beryl Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Feb 22, 2009
    I agree and wanted him fed to walkers in the first episode of the season. Unfortunately, he is one of the few people with medical training. He knew which meds were needed and mentioned using IVs to administer the antibiotics.
  5. Nov 6, 2013 #65 of 104

    Allanon Well-Known Member

    Nov 2, 2005


    Wasn't there talk of a Walking Dead spin-off? Maybe Carol is going to be part of the spin-off. Rick did tell her she will find a new group.
  6. Nov 6, 2013 #66 of 104

    jradosh Newlywed

    Jul 31, 2001
    Did they ever explain who was feeding the walkers with the rats, and why? I've assUmed it was the little girl that was naming them. But I don't recall that they ever established that.
  7. Nov 6, 2013 #67 of 104

    Anubys All About Footwork

    Jul 16, 2004
    I don't understand all this talk of Rick being a leader again. He did not approve of Carol's actions and told her he could no longer trust her around his kids. He made a decision for himself, not the tribe, and threatened her with the only leverage he had (she would die if she came back).
  8. Nov 6, 2013 #68 of 104

    pmyers Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Gilbert, AZ
    I don't see many choices for Rick: He had made the personal decision that he couldn't keep it to himself so at that point the only 2 choices were to have her leave or for her to come back and face the wrath of Tyrese and everybody else. Even if he doesn't kill her, what is that going to do to life at the prison? Sides will be good can come of it.

    She was an instrumental part of the "council" and betrayed it by making her own decision.
  9. Nov 6, 2013 #69 of 104

    LaurenLMHC Member

    Aug 28, 2013
    I am so confused. At the beginning, it looked like they showed RICK knifing a sick woman and dragging her body outside. What the heck was that??
  10. Nov 6, 2013 #70 of 104

    Anubys All About Footwork

    Jul 16, 2004
    He was picturing Carol knifing the sick woman and then picturing Carol dragging the woman outside (to later burn her body)...he was being a detective and we were seeing what he was imagining (the crime scene).
  11. Nov 6, 2013 #71 of 104

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

    Oct 20, 2007
    MN, greater...
    It was Rick looking into the room where karen was killed and then it cut to a flashback scene showing what he was also imagining, Carol killing Karen in that room and then cut back to Rick looking into the room. Then it showed Rick looking down the hallway where Carol had dragged the body and then it cut to another flashback scene of Carol dragging the body around the corner.
  12. Nov 6, 2013 #72 of 104

    DeDondeEs Well-Known Member

    Feb 20, 2004
    Las Vegas, NV
    Ah that explains a lot. For some reason I missed the aspect of it being a flashback and thought the knifing and dragging them out had become SOP for handling the sick people, which left me wondering why Rick was cutting Karen loose.
  13. Nov 6, 2013 #73 of 104

    getreal postcrastinator

    Sep 29, 2003
    What if the little girl with the knife actually killed the two people and Carol dragged them out and burned the bodies and then took the blame to protect her? Hmmm ...
  14. Nov 6, 2013 #74 of 104

    Anubys All About Footwork

    Jul 16, 2004
    My daughter is about the same size and build. No way she could have dragged those bodies. None.
  15. Nov 6, 2013 #75 of 104

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    Jun 12, 2004
    Fishers, IN
    That's not what was said; he said "...Carol dragged them out..."
  16. Nov 6, 2013 #76 of 104

    Beryl Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Feb 22, 2009
    Never thought of that but it makes A LOT of sense. Hope this is how it turns out but her taking the blame for killing them was dumb, IMO. No way would Ty or anyone else want to see harm come to a little girl.
  17. Nov 6, 2013 #77 of 104

    WhiskeyTango New Member

    Sep 20, 2006
    New Jersey
    Not really. If the girl killed them, and Carol wanted to cover for her, why not just say that they died, and Carol stabbed them before they could turn, just like she did with everyone else who died from the virus. Why go through the theater of dragging the bodies outside to burn them and then come up with a story about how you wanted to stop the virus.
  18. Nov 6, 2013 #78 of 104

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

    Oct 20, 2007
    MN, greater...
    What if unicorns are real?

    If that were the case, they wouldn't have had the flashback scenes at all.
  19. Nov 6, 2013 #79 of 104

    Langree The Gimp

    Apr 29, 2004
    Actually, as was stated, the flashbacks were a visual representation of Rick piecing it together in his head. Looking at the clues and figuring "This is what happened".
  20. Nov 6, 2013 #80 of 104

    mrdazzo7 Well-Known Member

    Jan 8, 2006
    Damn...I like pretty much everyone out of the core group that's left (Daryl, Maggie, Glenn, Michonne, Carol) so it sucks to see one of them tossed out. Obviously that's not the last we'll be seeing of her, and I'm sure the rest of the crew is gonna be pissed that Rick decided to exile her without voting on it. I get that he felt he had to protect his kids but at the same time, it's a stretch for him to think she would hurt either of them based on what she did here, which was kill two relative strangers who she knew were dead anyway, in an attempt to save everyone else. That doesn't mean she would kill one of Rick's kids. But I get it.

    Still, everyone else will be pissed - she's part of their family and they've all been together for over a year, some of them since the very beginning of the outbreak. Now if someone exiled Tyreese, I don't think anyone would care. Like others, I have no idea who he's supposed to be in the comics but that dude just absolutely drains every scene he's in. Poorly written and poorly acted in my opinion. A lot of the character drama so far is stemming from his reaction to Karen's death, and it's dumb because we saw them together for one episode, why would we be invested in this story at all? if someone killed Maggie and the storyline focused on Glen's thirst for vengeance, it would make sense.

    They definitely seemed to be spinning some Daryl/Michonne vibes, so maybe now that Carol's gone that's what they were setting up? But if Daryl and Carol have been an actual couple for the last few months (and possibly since before the prison), there's no way he's gonna just stay in the prison - he's gonna go looking for her, and she'll be brought back in. My guess is that she stumbles onto the Governor and wins back the hearts and minds of the prison by tipping them off.

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