The Walking Dead 'Remember' S05E12 3/1/15

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  1. Mar 5, 2015 #181 of 209
    Ereth

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    Only if you are naive enough to believe everybody who tells you that this place is safe, without checking it out to confirm for yourself.

    At the time they gave up their guns what had they seen? One poorly constructed wall with the supports on the outside. Not so easily breached by walkers, it's true, but trivially breached by the Governor or anybody like him. Rick had the Prison. It was secure, right up until it wasn't.

    The lesson that Rick has learned, the lesson of all the previous seasons, is that the walkers aren't the most dangerous threat. They can be handled. They are annoyances, dangerous if you get sloppy, but not the greatest threat. People are a far greater threat. And people who pretend to be your friends are the greatest threat of all.
     
  2. Mar 5, 2015 #182 of 209
    Philosofy

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    Don't you guys remember Rick's conversation with Mi'Chonne (sp?) He asked what she heard outside the Governor's town and Terminus, and the answer was nothing. Outside Alexandria Rick heard kids playing. After he heard that was when he decided to go in and surrender his weapons.
     
  3. Mar 5, 2015 #183 of 209
    danterner

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    Giving up your weapons during a zombie apocalypse where everyone is infected is just stupid. Even if the community is perfectly peaceful and perfectly protected against the outside, it just takes one peaceful resident to have a heart attack and die in his sleep and suddenly you have a zombie within the community and no weapons on hand.
     
  4. Mar 5, 2015 #184 of 209
    DreadPirateRob

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    They still have their blades, which is more than enough to deal with your scenario.
     
  5. Mar 5, 2015 #185 of 209
    scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    What's odd about it? They took a few minutes to swap out the battery. It's not as if they spent half a day sitting around waiting for it to get fixed.

    That would be because you thought he hid it when they stopped at the gate note several miles earlier when the RV broke down

    Yes, it does and relatively close by is a relative concept

    It's where he had an opportunity to hide it. It clearly wasn't too far because he left, found where he hid it and got back w/o raising any suspicion. And Carl also managed to show up at the same place and time w/o anyone even knowing he was gone.
     
  6. Mar 5, 2015 #186 of 209
    classicX

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    Makes sense to me to hide a weapon outside the gate. I would have hidden more weapons actually, but since they were watching them for weeks, the Alexandrians would likely have a pretty good handle on what weapons the group was carrying, and if more than a few are suddenly missing, it would be suspicious.
     
  7. Mar 5, 2015 #187 of 209
    DevdogAZ

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    Since the Alexandrians were watching them for weeks (or days, or whatever), what's to say they wouldn't also be watching as Rick & Co. hid their weapons? For all we know, that's exactly what happened with the blender gun.
     
  8. Mar 5, 2015 #188 of 209
    JohnB1000

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    They hid the weapons during a break from traveling with the Alexandrians right ? So at least in theory Rick snuck off and knew where the other two were.
     
  9. Mar 5, 2015 #189 of 209
    spartanstew

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    I remember it. I also remember Rob mentioning it last night.
     
  10. Mar 5, 2015 #190 of 209
    Necromancer2006

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    I don't think the group would look at Rick and compare him to the Governor. Look at the scouting party - Glenn was so overly pissed at the careless laissez-faire attitude displayed that they were appalled to witness that kind of recklessness from a community that is supposed to have been around for a long time.

    The town people might view him as a dictator, but I bet the next threat comes from the outside, and the townspeople are going to look to Rick and WANT him to be the heavy bad-ass he and the Grimes Gang can be.
     
  11. Mar 5, 2015 #191 of 209
    Necromancer2006

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    It also could be that because they're protected behind their walls, they aren't ever in the need to be always on guard. With one or two walkers at a time, I might see how they could get cocky and think that Walkers are something that can be toyed with (kind of like Carl did with the Walker that eventually killed Dale, and Lizzie toying with the Walker just outside the house with Carol and Tyrees).
     
  12. Mar 5, 2015 #192 of 209
    Necromancer2006

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    I think it's going to come down to a little abuse situation. She's going to be abused, Rick isn't going to like someone being abused, and since he's the law, he'll have to put the guy on notice, she's going to fall for Rick, more abuse ensues which will cause Rick to summarily execute the husband for crimes. That might create a little tension in the town towards Rick (even though what he did was right).

    (Speculation)
     
  13. Mar 5, 2015 #193 of 209
    Beryl

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    The "Crime Without Punishment" (the book Michonne held during her interview) concept will be in play in any case.
     
  14. Mar 5, 2015 #194 of 209
    gweempose

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    Beryl

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    That tour is BEFORE the Grimes clan came in and dirtied the study where the interviews were held. Rick put his grubby hands on the wall and that dirt remained there for the rest of the episode.

    Did anyone else notice that?
     
  16. Mar 5, 2015 #196 of 209
    DevdogAZ

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    No reason some other Alexandrians couldn't have been nearby watching. For all we know, the RV "breaking down" a few miles outside town is standard procedure and they have it set up to see what their new recruits will do in that situation.
     
  17. Mar 5, 2015 #197 of 209
    JohnB1000

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    Under that logic it could be anyone:)

    They really gave no indication that there were out there.
     
  18. Mar 5, 2015 #198 of 209
    scandia101

    scandia101 Just the facts ma'am

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    It was clearly Morgan who took the blender gun.
     
  19. Mar 6, 2015 #199 of 209
    Vendikarr

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    I think letting Rick's people keep their blades shows how naive the Alexandrians are about the way the world works. They took the guns as if they are the only weapons of note. They left Daryl his crossbow and everyone their knives, machetes, etc.

    To survive in the ZA you need to develop lethal proficiency with a knife, probably close to Special Forces level. Rick and his people could take that entire village in a night with just their blades if they wanted.
     
  20. Mar 6, 2015 #200 of 209
    Rob Helmerichs

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    As they indicated with the confrontation between Mayor Jr. and Glen...the kid is about twice Glen's size, but when he finally pushed Glen too far it took Glen two seconds to demolish him. The Alexandrians have the cockiness that comes from having been safe for years; Rick & Co. have the ruthless danger that comes from having to fight for their lives for years.
     

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