The Walking Dead - "Beside The Dying Fire" - OAD 3/18/12 *Season Finale*

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by photoshopgrl, Mar 18, 2012.

  1. MikeMar

    MikeMar Go Pats

    Jan 7, 2005


    Zombie ANYTHING is better than most tv :D

    I love zombies, good, bad, and everything in between.
  2. fmowry

    fmowry Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2002
    Baltimore, MD
    Strange. S2 first half sucked a bag of dees. S2 second half was much better.
  3. Beryl

    Beryl Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Feb 22, 2009
    In retrospect, I think you are right. I think for me, the 1st half still had the glow of S1 and I was hoping for the best. It was pretty horrid when I think of all of those stupid conversations.
  4. retrodog

    retrodog King Button Pusher

    Feb 7, 2002
    At the gun...
    Well I don't think you're supposed to be tasting them. ;)

    Yes, I keep federal bulk packs of 22 ammo in my car and in my house. It seems to work pretty well.

    Well there's two interesting points about this. The first one is that we're talking about the characters on the show and not what you or any of your speed shooting friends can do on the weekends. Many of us shoot frequently and can shoot better than the characters on the show should be able to but that's beside the point. Secondly, you're shooting at static targets, probably, for the most part. Even in the matches that we shoot on the weekends at my club, the target sometimes move up or move down and you have to shoot them while they're moving. But those are usually larger in diameter and closer than what we're describing in this scenario. I contend that for regular people, even those who have been practicing shooting for a while now, they're not going to be able to shoot heads moving at that range. Especially not at night time. And let's be honest with each other, since the noise brings in new walkers, they don't really get to target shoot and practice very often without the threat of bringing in the Walkers. So they don't really have the opportunity get as much practice as you and I do.

    Yes, but that is why many of us co-witness our red dot sights on our guns. If you look through your site and the red dot is missing, you just use the sites that you see through there. But I am guessing that a bunch of regular people would never know that or figure it out on their own.
  5. pmyers

    pmyers Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Gilbert, AZ
  6. betts4

    betts4 I am Spartacus!

    Dec 26, 2005
    A Galaxy...
    I thought this was interesting -- Not sure if it needed to be hidden, but, I wanted to be safe.
    Can a zombie actually starve to... death? --DarylFTW

    A: No, a walker would not starve to death, but the corpse would continue to rot so over months it would probably rot and fall apart. But let's keep in mind that from the time of the Pilot to the end of Season 2, we think it's only been about four months. So, as we continue from season to season and those months turn into years, we do think that the older walkers would continue to deteriorate. But now we learn that anybody who dies becomes a walker so there would always be new walkers -- fresh walkers.
  7. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    Jun 12, 2004
    Fishers, IN
    I particularly like his comment about....
    Michonne...She hasn't tortured those walkers into submission, but let's say this: Michonne is the one person in The Walking Dead universe who has figured out how live on her own. She is a walker's worst nightmare.
  8. Hank

    Hank AC•FTW TCF Club

    May 31, 2000
    Boston, MA
    I read the web comic backstory on Michonne and it looks like, to me...
    her two slaves are her boyfriend and his idiotic friend.

    But that's just me.
  9. MonsterJoe

    MonsterJoe Travels for Food

    Feb 19, 2003
    Central MA

    i was going through the motions for the first half...but I got back to looking forward to it each week, after the break.
  10. danterner

    danterner Not it!

    Mar 4, 2005
    Greenacres, FL
    I didn't make that connection, but I like it.
  11. pmyers

    pmyers Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2001
    Gilbert, AZ
    totally agree.
  12. IndyJones1023

    IndyJones1023 Auteur

    Apr 1, 2002
    Orlando, FL
    It was pretty explicit.
  13. danterner

    danterner Not it!

    Mar 4, 2005
    Greenacres, FL
    You're right. I just re-read the last page and it is totally explicit. Not sure why I didn't "get it" the first time.
  14. retrodog

    retrodog King Button Pusher

    Feb 7, 2002
    At the gun...
    Kind of makes me think...

    Just another chick insistent on always getting in the last word.

  15. MrGreg

    MrGreg New Member

    May 2, 2003
    I don't disagree with anything you've said. We do sometimes shoot moving targets, and it does greatly increase the challenge. Particularly with pistols.

    We have yet to attempt to shoot moving targets from a moving vehicle, though :D
  16. markz

    markz Well-Known Member

    Oct 22, 2002
    That's exactly what I thought.
  17. retrodog

    retrodog King Button Pusher

    Feb 7, 2002
    At the gun...
    FYP. ;)

    I'm going to try that with my MP5 some time. And if the MP5 won't do the job, I'll move on up to the G3.
  18. classicX

    classicX Don't scream.

    May 10, 2006
    Miles away...
    I haven't been through all 12 pages of commentary yet, but two things jumped out to me at the end of the episode, there are some similarities to the excellent book "Ex-Patriots" by Peter Clines.

    Spoilerized because if you haven't read this book, you should.

    When I saw the hooded figure, I immediately made a connection to the character in the book "Stealth." which is pretty much why I felt like it is a female in the hood (more or less confirmed by posts here about who she is).

    The prison also reminded me immediately of the Mount - the fortified place where the survivors live in the book.

    Lastly, the idea that the "walker" infection is a carried disease and pretty much everyone is infected is taken straight from the book, which is probably taken from somewhere else. The idea is thus (doubly spoilerized since I know you will peek anyway):

    The zombie infection is more or less harmless in the living - it lies dormant until the person dies of other causes, then reanimates the flesh to spread itself. The reason that people die from a bite is because a zombie's mouth is positively crawling with other infections (for many reasons), and the bite transmits them all to the victim, whose immune system can't handle everything all at once.

    For example, if you got a cold, you'd likely survive. But if you got a cold, and the flu, and pneumonia, and chicken pox, and every other common disease all at once, you have almost no chance to survive, so make your time. We saw this in the guy who got bitten in season 1 but hid it; he had a fever that wouldn't quit, then eventually he just died.

    Anyone who's read the book make the same connections?

    [sorry if i've smeeked, I'll go back now and read all of the comments.
  19. retrodog

    retrodog King Button Pusher

    Feb 7, 2002
    At the gun...
    Good info and points, but I contend that...

    Numerous diseases couldn't live together like that. Maybe one or two, but combinations like you're describing would not be possible. And especially not in an undead walker with no blood flow.

    But for the purposes of the "zombie universe" I guess it's about as good of an explanation as we're gonna get. Thanks.
  20. classicX

    classicX Don't scream.

    May 10, 2006
    Miles away...
    As has been stated, there are prisons with open "dirt" areas and some with grass; I'd say more than half of the prisons I've been to have some sort of farm-able land within a secured perimeter, even if it's outside the inner secured space.

    Or having no jaws and possibly not even teeth.

    I'd assume that you wouldn't need to, since walkers would likely take you for a walker as well seeing a group of them moving together.

    No offense, but that statement is almost always followed by a racist comment.

    Mentioned before, but small spread or slug shots would work and be reasonably accurate out to about 50-75 feet.

    While prisons are designed to keep people out, their primary purpose is to keep people in. Most prisons have enough of a barrier to keep people out just long enough for someone to be alerted and fashion an appropriate response.

    Given enough time and no fear from guards shooting you and the like, you cold get in reasonably easily. The fences wouldn't hold back a huge herd, but regular culling of any walkers gathered at the fence using some sort of pike or spear would be a quiet and simple way to keep them at bay.

    Why would walkers be detered by water? They probably can't swim, but they don't need to breath. A random walker, walking in a random direction would eventually walk in to the sea and keep walking until he reaches land or deteriorates enough that he can't walk any more.

    Cold weather would possibly make them slower but would also slow any process of decay, so it's likely a wash.

    Plus, given this new information that every is infected, EVERY death must immediately be followed by putting down the walker otherwise you'd have an outbreak all over again.

    How did you not catch fire?! :p


    Or maybe they just don't recognize her as food while she's wearing it - the walkers don't attack anything that moves, just anything living. Perhaps the cloak makes her look more like a car than a person (to the walkers).

    That's probably the worst weapon against a zombie horde - light a zombie on fire and you've just shortened its lifespan to about 5-10 minutes, but during those minutes you have a flaming zombie after you.

    A simple system of code words and phrases, plus a system of channel switching [such as by time of day] would do well, assuming they aren't using sophisticated scanning equipment.

    The small hand radios that have 20-40 mile ranges [in reality it's more like 1 mile] would be fine, and can be recharged with a very small generator or even a 9V cigarette lighter inverter.

    The diseases wouldn't have to live together persay, or even infect the zombie. They would just need to be present in some flesh or blood stuck in the teeth of zombie in some way that makes the transfer possible during a bite.

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