The TiVo Wireless G Adapter is here!

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by TiVoJerry, Dec 27, 2005.

  1. Jan 4, 2006 #101 of 266
    MickeS

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    I'm pretty sure the answer is "none"... :D

    Now, how many were returned because the in-the-box software didn't support network guided setup, that's another matter... ;)
     
  2. Jan 4, 2006 #102 of 266
    PThor

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    I'm hoping someone would be the first to post some real world numbers with the new adapter.

    BTW - Please post what you get with your old adapter as well.


    Thanks!
    Paul
     
  3. Jan 4, 2006 #103 of 266
    ZeoTiVo

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    that is where you need to go outside and check where your signal is. The best defense for across the street is to just make sure the signal does not get there by antenna placement etc.. those brothers may well be reading deeper hacking sites on how to break WPA and trying it out on WPA networks they see.


    well I sound like I sound but it truly comes from my business perception of what TiVo is doing. I do tend to see things from a TiVo inc. perspective in the sense of resources to do WPA vs the ROI on it and of course it is from a very high, vauge level since I have no access to actual business data that TiVo, inc would have so I can see it comes across that way but it really is not where I come from at all. If replay had suddenly put out a dual tuner box with built in wireless G with WPA support and fast video extraction to portable devices I would not be posting here much ;)
    the irony is that if TiVo had an ethernet port along with USB ports those wanting WPA would get a wireless bridge for the ethernet port and this would all be moot. Be interesting to see how the new CC TiVo will look on this issue
     
  4. Jan 5, 2006 #104 of 266
    colforbin13

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    Anyone know if there are plans of adding this to the TiVo rewards program offerings? I was saving some points for an iPod, but I got one for Christmas, then I figured I'd get the wireless adapter up there, but went and noticed it has disappeared. I'm currently using an unsupported adapter, and transfer times are brutally slow. If they're going to put it on the rewards page, I'd gladly wait till it showed up. Otherwise, I'm quite interested in how much this will speed up my transfer rates, and might be interested in purchasing it.
     
  5. Jan 5, 2006 #105 of 266
    TivoZorro

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    I set up the Tivo adapter last night. I transfered a 30 minute show in 16 minutes to my laptop. A 1 hour show transfered in 20 minutes and the next 1 hour show transfered in 26 minutes.

    One piece of advice do not make a test connection to the Tivo Service. I did so after I set up the adapter and when I tried to schedule a recording from Tivo Central this morning it couldn't find my channel line-up. When I talked to Customer Service a very nice rep told me that when you do a test connection it resets your cable line-up. So she had me make a connection over my network to the Tivo Service (which by the way was lightning fast) and then I let it download and index and after two to three hours I was able to schedule a recording on Tivo Central Online.
     
  6. Jan 5, 2006 #106 of 266
    davezatz

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    I was actually scared to post my results since they're so radical... are you downloading shows in half the time (compared to my Netgear WG111) like I am??
     
  7. Jan 5, 2006 #107 of 266
    TivoZorro

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    This was the first adapter I have had connected to my Tivo so I don't have anything to compare it to. When I tallked to the Tivo rep this morning about Tivo Central Online I told her the download times I was seeing and how fast it was and she indicated that people using "other" adapters were seeing a download time of 2 hours for a 1 hour show and that the Tivo adapter was faster.

    I rechecked the time on my 30 minute program and it downloaded in 14 minutes. All of the programs I did were in basic quality. I don't know if it makes any difference but my router is in the downstairs office, my Tivo is in my upstairs bedroom and my laptop is on an end table very close to where the Tivo is positioned. When the computer guy set up the network he indicated that I would be able to surf the Internet while relaxing in bed without a problem.

    I too was kind of scared to post the numbers.
     
  8. Jan 5, 2006 #108 of 266
    2004raptor

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    Just a small update on this. My brother, who also has a tivo and no wireless adapter yet, called tivo and they told him the wireless g adapter will not work with his wireless b network. Like I opinted out earlier, their site even says it willwork with b networks so this leaveds me more confused.
    I ordered a wireless G for my tivo (wish they could give me a tracking #) and I will test it on his network as well.
    Should it just automatically recognize the adapter and display that somewhere in the settings or sys info?
    Lastly, does anyone here actually have a wireless B router working with the tivo brand or any other wireless G adapter?
     
  9. Jan 5, 2006 #109 of 266
    DCIFRTHS

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    Please post the numbers. We'll believe you ;)
     
  10. Jan 5, 2006 #110 of 266
    davezatz

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    Well unofficially, between just us here on the forum, I've been testing transfers from my most remote TiVo to my PC. PC has a Netgear WG111 adapter and the network has that most common Linksys G router.

    I've tried transfers of 1054MB (1, 30 minute show) and numerous 100MB transfers. and the TiVo wireless adapter is much faster than the WG111 I used to use. Vaguely let me say the 100MB transfers average about 5 mins with the new adapter versus over 10 for the Netgear (100%+ faster). I want to do some testing on one of my other boxes for comparison and I'm also going to test versus a B version of that Netgear adapter. I won't be able to do accurate MRV testing since I only have one TiVo adapter.

    Like TiVoJerry said there are so many factors which can influence the performance improvements we might see I worry about making such dramatic claims. I also have a Dlink adapter arround here somewhere I may throw into the mix for testing.
     
  11. Jan 5, 2006 #111 of 266
    cptodd

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    You know I was goin got post that a G adapter will not work with a B router but now I am not so sure. I do know that G routers have to be set to B/G mode to recieve and send signals to B adapters. I wonder if it works in reverse (G adapter and B router).
     
  12. Jan 5, 2006 #112 of 266
    stevel

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    G adapters are supposed to also support B.
     
  13. Jan 5, 2006 #113 of 266
    MickeS

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    G adapters work fine with B network. Of course, they'll only get b speed.
     
  14. Jan 5, 2006 #114 of 266
    seloewy

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    I'm reading this thread the day after my 2nd Tivo has arrived. It's gift for hubby who wants to watch some of our shows upstairs, while kids have the family room TV.

    I vaguely understand the principles between the Tivo wireless adapter performing some of the processing in its own chip. Question is, if I hook my Tivo's up to my home's wireless network through our 802.1B router, will I see any benefit? My gut says yes, since it seems like the issue is processor lag, not i/o speed. At this point, I'm only interested in transferring contact from tivo to tivo, not doing any T2Go, but that may follow.

    Can I watch a show stored on the downstairs tivo on the upstairs machine without having to complete the transfer of the content (like streaming?). Will I be able to use all of the features on my remote - to skip commercials, let's say - when I watch the show upstairs?

    (contrary to some of the questions regarding backward compatability, I'm pretty sure that the router will support a "g" card, just will max it out at "b" speeds)... and of course, I understand that speed will depend on other network traffic, connection signal, etc...

    I'm really new to this, so forgive me if I've posted in the wrong place or phrased my question inappropriately. thanks in advance!
     
  15. Jan 6, 2006 #115 of 266
    PThor

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    seloewy@comcast,

    You can watch a show as it is transfering from one Tivo to the other. However, since the transfer speed is often a little slower than the playback speed (certainly with the regular off-the-shelf wireless adapters, the new Tivo branded adapter remains to be seen) you need to give the transfer a headstart.

    When you play back a show you can fast forward (as far as the show has been transfered), rewind, pause, etc. from your remote. When I do this I start the transfer, go get something to drink, visit the restroom, etc. before I come back and start watching.

    Putting your Tivo's on wireless will also give you additional benefits if your wireless network has internet access that includes downloading directory updates over the internet rather than through your phone lines, Home Media options such as playing music and displaying photos from a PC, faster updating through online Tivo programming, new access to radio stations and podcasts, displaying weather forecasts and traffic conditions, etc.

    My 2-cents is to go for it.

    Paul
     
  16. Jan 6, 2006 #116 of 266
    classicsat

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    Your first mistake. You should have researched what adapters work.

    Them being behind is not totally their fault, you can blame the adapter companies for not sticking to a design for a particular produce, and not leting at least the buyer immediately know the change.
    Yes, they are behing on supporting WPA.

    The 2xx and 5xx DVRs have 2.0 ports and drivers. It is just that the CPU in the DVR can do only so much to feed those ports. Kudos to them for including the 1xx DVRs in support for their adapter, even though it is fixed at USB1.1
     
  17. Jan 6, 2006 #117 of 266
    su719

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    I have a Sony SVR-3000 which seems to be the older 110 series. I currently have a WG111 working on this machine. Will the Tivo adapter offer an increase in speed considering this G adapter is not really supposed to work with my setup?
     
  18. Jan 7, 2006 #118 of 266
    ThreeSoFar

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    What brand and model bridge are you (or others) using? I might go this route, though I do like the looks of this adapter.
     
  19. Jan 7, 2006 #119 of 266
    2004raptor

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    Just got mine in. Looks pretty neat. I already have a question or two.
    i have a one hour recording that I am trying to transfer to my desktop pc. It was recorded in High Quality and I think I saw where it was 1.6GB.
    The transfer through tivo desktop shows 1 hr. and 3 minutes for the transfer. Does that sound about right?


    BTW network configuration Desktop pc is conncted to wired router which is connected to Linksys wireless G w/speedbooster. Tivo Wirelss g is (of course) connected to above mentioend linksys.

    Side Note- How can I tell the actual size of the file while browsing the tivo? I know I saw it somewhere, just can't remember
     
  20. Jan 7, 2006 #120 of 266
    TiVoJerry

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    A quick "hello" from CES. I don't have much time to sit down and access the forums, but I wanted to let you know that I received an answer on the above quoted question. It turns out that the "license=GPL" metadata was inserted during development to clear up clutter on the debug screen, and then we forgot to remove it before shipping. To the best of our knowledge, there is no GPL code in the driver. We are therefore not licensing the module under the GPL. We will be removing that line in the next release to avoid confusion.

    I apologize if I've missed any other questions that are discussed in this thread. I hope to play catch up next week but expect to be behind for awhile longer.
     

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