The TiVo Wireless G Adapter is here!

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by TiVoJerry, Dec 27, 2005.

  1. Dec 28, 2005 #41 of 266
    hoosxj

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    i have a question about this setup...i currently have my xbox and one tivo wired to a netgear wireless-g router downstairs in my house. i'd like to move the router upstairs to get better overall coverage. i also have an old linksys 10/100 wired hub. if i were to get a wireless bridge, could i connect it to the WAN port of the hub and connect both the xbox and the tivo (w/ USB ethernet) to my network through it?
     
  2. Dec 28, 2005 #42 of 266
    Tap

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    Just to make it clear - the processing duties the adapter are relieving the tivo of have to do with managing the wireless nic, right?

    For those of us using the Linksys USB2Ethernet adapter, and having that adapter plugged into a wireless bridge, we would expect to see no benefit as far as the muxing of the video when we are transfering files to TivoToGo, right? The new adapter doesn't offload any thing to do with the video files itself?
     
  3. Dec 28, 2005 #43 of 266
    TiVoJerry

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    That is essentially correct.

    While I wouldn't expect to see improved performance over this particular setup, I do not know how much, if any, of the workload for your adapter is passed down to the DVR. It is certainly possible that you might still see some benefit, but I would leave this be if I were in your shoes (especially if you are able to use WPA in this manner).
     
  4. Dec 28, 2005 #44 of 266
    Tap

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    Thanks, Jerry.
     
  5. Dec 28, 2005 #45 of 266
    ChuckyBox

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    How much is passed down in general? I'm using the Linksys wireless b adapter you used to sell on tivo.com. I don't do much TTG, but I like the Yahoo and apps.tv kind of applications which make both network and imaging demands on the processor, but are not necessarily bandwidth-intensive. Could I expect a significant performance improvement from the new adapter?
     
  6. Dec 28, 2005 #46 of 266
    TiVoJerry

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    It's really hard for me to quantify. The figures vary from adapter to adapter, and the effect on performance can vary depending on what processes are running on the DVR at that particular moment (not all of which are customer facing).

    Think of this empirically---if you're happy with the performance you have now, there's not much reason to switch at this time. However, if this happens to be the only 802.11b adapter on an otherwise all-802.11g network, it might be worth making the move as it could have a positive effect on network speeds as a whole.
     
  7. Dec 28, 2005 #47 of 266
    JamieP

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    TiVoJerry:

    The usb-cdc.o kernel module used by this new adapter appears to be licensed under the GPL: the module metadata in the object file shows "license=GPL". I'd like to request the source for this module under the terms of the GPL It does not seem to be available from www.tivo.com/linux.
     
  8. Dec 28, 2005 #48 of 266
    TiVoJerry

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    That's a good point. I have to admit that we did not properly prepare for a request of that nature. Once I've researched this further, I will try to let you know when this is available but there may be a delay due to my attending CES next week.

    Thanks for pointing this out.
     
  9. Dec 30, 2005 #49 of 266
    tiellv

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    :up: Yay! Just in time! My Netgear WG111 on my newest TiVo seems to have crapped out so I put my old Linksys 802.11b adaptor on it to get the downloads. I just ordered 2 of the TiVo adaptors, one for my newer TiVo and one for my older TiVo that could only use 802.11b previously.
     
  10. Jan 1, 2006 #50 of 266
    djhansensr

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    Jerry,

    I bought the new TiVo wireless adaptor, and later found out that it doesn't support WPA. Is WPA support scheduled for the near future, and will it just be a matter of upgrading the TiVo software version? Would the adaptor have the support already built in? I'm debating on whether or not to return the new adaptor, or hold onto it until WPA is supported.

    Thanks,
    Dean
     
  11. Jan 1, 2006 #51 of 266
    stevel

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    Re: WPA - see what TiVoJerry said here.

    In other words, you'll know when (if) it's released, and not before that.
     
  12. Jan 1, 2006 #52 of 266
    2004raptor

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    I ordered one for myself but do have a general question.

    It is called a TiVo wireless G USB network adapter. The description says
    Not trying to split hairs just want to make sure my thinking is correct. Just in the world of PC's, if you currently have a "G" router, you can add "B" devices (network adapters). This is known as being backwards compatable. But if you currently have a "B" router, I didn't think you could add "G" devices.

    Is my thinking flawed?
     
  13. Jan 1, 2006 #53 of 266
    pdhenry

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    You can add a G device to a B router.

    In this case, backwards compatible means that the routers and the device are both capable of establishing a B connection.
     
  14. Jan 1, 2006 #54 of 266
    Prozium

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    An 802.11g or 802.11b wireless adapter will work on any 802.11g or 802.11b router (assuming you have the router setup to accept connections from both B & G devices. There are performance modes where an 802.11g router won't accept connections from 802.11b devices.) Although it will only run at the speed of the slowest device connected.
     
  15. Jan 1, 2006 #55 of 266
    2004raptor

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    Thanks pdhenry and Prozium. I stand corrected. I know that I heard/read that somewhere in the past and it stuck with me. Thanks for clearing it up.
     
  16. Jan 1, 2006 #56 of 266
    cheerdude

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    Routers were to have arrived on Saturday (despite me not ordering Saturday delivery) <g> However, the office was closed and the apartment has an electronic gate. They didn't try to buzz in... so the delivery is postponed until Wednesday (home delivery is closed on Tuesday).
     
  17. Jan 2, 2006 #57 of 266
    bicker

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    How much of an improvement in speed should we see with the new adapter?
     
  18. Jan 2, 2006 #58 of 266
    djhansensr

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    The big question is:

    Would the adaptor have the support already built in for WPA? I'm debating on whether or not to return the new adaptor, or hold onto it until WPA is supported.
     
  19. Jan 2, 2006 #59 of 266
    2004raptor

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    Since I have MAC address filtering and WEP already configured on my router, what will the tivo need for me to connect the Adapter when i get it?
    IOW for MAC address filtering, how can I get the MAC address of the adapter so I can add it to the approved list?
    And for WEP, when I plug in the adapter willtivo prompt me for the key?
    thanks
     
  20. Jan 2, 2006 #60 of 266
    stevel

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    The MAC address should be printed on the adapter or box somewhere. The TiVo software will let you set the WEP key.
     

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