The Tivo Stream 4K is much improved since when it first launched last year

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream 4K' started by omelet1978, Feb 16, 2021.

  1. XRaiderV17

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    guys...pull up your phones' camera apps, switch to selfie mode...aim the TS4K remote at it, hit the home button....if you see 2 purple glowy dots on the image..you're not losing your minds. something's gone terribly wrong with the remote's own firmware in this update.

    this happens for the tivo button, live button, home button, or guide button.
     
  2. dbpaddler

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    Sabrina sucks and is just one big advertising page with no way to customize to one's liking unlike the TS4k's Android tv home screen. Shield is overpriced and overkill for most's needs. Only way I would justify it is if I used it as my channels server and ditched the mini pc.

    And who gives a f about their software? Just disable everything tivo related if you don't care for it and Stream.

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  3. dbpaddler

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    Confused. My buttons are mapped to Channels and work just fine. Circle takes me it android tv home. Guide takes me to Channels guide. Live takes me to the last channel I was watching in Channels. I don't touch the tivo button.

    I've disabled anything stream related and the update re-enables Stream and the tivo plus player. So you need to disable them again. If you did in the first place.

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  4. XRaiderV17

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    my point was..buttons that have zero business interacting with my tv via the infrared blaster are triggering the blaster and getting that 'not available' error from the tv itself(not the tivo..tivo doesn't care its working just fine)

    I think they did something to the remote's firmware with the update.
     
  5. Vm19

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    I'm not talking about the tivo stuff, I removed that garbage on day one, I'm talking about basic features like hdr, autoframerate, proper audio, and other things that are half assed.

    I have a chromecast and I like it a lot, the launcher is the exact same as the new android tv launcher that is coming to all devices. Right now you can uninstall the update but eventually tivo is going to push it with the firmware so you're going to be on the same boat. But guess what? sideloading a third party launcher takes like 5 minutes.
     
  6. dbpaddler

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    Tivo will not be updating to Android 10 anytime soon which the Google TV Home screen is associated with. So no, Google TV Home screen will not be coming for a long while. People are so focused on the big ad at the top when that is the least of the issues.

    Google TV = aggregated content based on your viewing habits + pushed content they want you to purchase.

    Android TV: dedicated app rows where you can choose the apps you want to see.

    Big difference. One is customizable to your liking. The other is for people who can't figure out what to watch on their own and want content shoved in their faces.

    Side launchers are just big static app drawers with no real live content. Pointless.

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  7. NashGuy

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    Also:

    Google TV = Watchlist to save titles for later viewing from various apps (accessible from the device as well as from Google search in a web browser), plus a Continue Watching feature to jump back into content you've started from across apps

    Android TV = Play Next row that in theory acts as a combination of Google TV's Watchlist and Continue Watching queues but in reality isn't very useful because so few apps support it

    Aside from that, Google TV also integrates Rotten Tomatoes scores and movie trailers into its UI while, AFAIK, the Android TV home screen does neither. Yes, it's nice that Android TV is a little more customizable (add, remove, or re-arrange app-specific content recommendation rows) but I think the Google TV UI/system is actually much more useful.
     
  8. dbpaddler

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    It all depends on what you want presented to you on your home screen.

    I personally don't care about all the aggregation from all the sources. Rotten tomatoes and all that blah blah. Haven't had one person yet say, "have you seen xxxx?", and I haven't heard of it, bookmarked it or so on. There's enough advertising everywhere I go.

    And for all expanded on, it all falls under aggregation. You either want it at the expense of actual personalization or you don't. And you can't be in for penny because you automatically get a pound. Neither is perfect. It's what evils or lack of content/info do you want to deal with?

    But the main point which is getting lost is people are somewhat tunnel visioned by the big ad when in the grand scheme, that's the least of the overall issues.

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  9. NashGuy

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    Sounds like what you actually want is either a Roku or Google TV's apps-only mode. In other words, just a grid of apps. (Of course, the problems with those pesky apps is that they endlessly advertise their own content to you within their own UIs, right? Each of those content tiles is an ad!)
     
  10. dbpaddler

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    Umm, no. Not even worth expanding on as I've said countless times what I like about the android tv home screen.

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  11. Diacritical

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    One issue I have not seen mentions in this thread… YouTubeTV works in Android 10 and is buggy as hell in Android 9.
     

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