The Sopranos - "The Second Coming" OAD: 5-20-2007 *spoilers*

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  1. May 21, 2007 #21 of 123
    jeff125va

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    I'm going to spoiler tag this question about the previews even though I don't think it's necessary at all. It's just about a face I don't recognize that was in the previews for about one second and gave away nothing at all about the plot.
    Who was the guy who was raising the pistol who looked like a cross between Christopher Moltisanti and Bob Saget? I don't recognize that guy at all. Seems odd that they'd show someone we've never seen before (if I'm not mistaken) with nobody else we know in the scene.
     
  2. May 21, 2007 #22 of 123
    jeff125va

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    Yeah, I knew we couldn't be that lucky.
     
  3. May 21, 2007 #23 of 123
    Turtleboy

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    I doubt there will be a Godfather III type ending.
     
  4. May 21, 2007 #24 of 123
    TiVo'Brien

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    What the hell was Carmela talking about when she said AJ was always our happy little boy??? That kid's been a downer the whole series long!

    I did like AJ's social commentary on materialism, international relations, etc. I was kind of stunned when he actually spouted off to Tony who was eating dinner with Carmela and Meadow. I said to my wife, "He's never done that before." :eek:
     
  5. May 21, 2007 #25 of 123
    InterMurph

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    That house looked familiar. Is it possible that it was Paul Castellano's old house? Maybe they couldn't get the rights to film there, so they just took some footage, and dubbed Phil yelling out the window isntead.
     
  6. May 21, 2007 #26 of 123
    osterber

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    I think the point is that parents don't always see things through clear glasses. There are all sorts of cases of suicide and suicide attempts where people say "Never saw that coming!".

    If you've never had to check a loved one into a lock-down psychiatric ward at a hospital, I hope you never have to go through that pain. If you've never rescued someone from a suicide attempt, I hope you never have to go through that pain.

    -Rick
     
  7. May 21, 2007 #27 of 123
    Philosofy

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    I love how AJ can moan about all the injustice in the world, yet will rationalize all his actions. "You were 14 and smoking marijuana in the HOUSE!" "Did it ever occur to you that I was self medicating?" Yeah, right.
     
  8. May 21, 2007 #28 of 123
    pdhenry

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    Minor quibble - that was Christopher's widow.
     
  9. May 21, 2007 #29 of 123
    pdhenry

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    I think they were underscoring the other conversation about therapy being counterproductive for sociopaths.
     
  10. May 21, 2007 #30 of 123
    unixadm

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    At one point, though, at least in HD, you could see a person in the window. I wouldn't think that they would have had that in some previous footage. Either way, they were on the property filming outside with Little Carmine and Tony....they wouldn't have had that footage previously either.

    I think that the point of Phil staying inside is to show that he is drunk with power. He had agreed to meet with Carmine and Tony, then decides that he is too good/powerful to even meet with them face to face. He is demanding way too much and doesn't want to negotiate at all. He is really losing it....he killed two made guys that were to become the Don just so he could run the family. He still holds a grudge against Tony because of the killing of his brother by Tony B and the fact that Tony S didn't allow Phil to whack him. This will be the downfall of both his and Tony's family.

    Some good setup here, but considering there are only two episodes left, I would have expected a little more leading up the to the end..

    I think they are wasting way too much time on AJ's problems and not enough on the real problems of the feud between the "families"

    I think the beating of the guy that was harassing Meadow went way too far, but the guy deserved something, that's for sure. I wonder if Phil even knows what the guy did.
     
  11. May 21, 2007 #31 of 123
    Rob Helmerichs

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    If you're saying AJ is a sociopath, I disagree. He's just shallow and stupid.
     
  12. May 21, 2007 #32 of 123
    jgickler

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    It looked familiar to me as well. I was wondering if it was from one of the Godfather movies.
     
  13. May 21, 2007 #33 of 123
    7thton

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    Me too. Or if he even cares.
     
  14. May 21, 2007 #34 of 123
    Turtleboy

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    But that's the whole point of the show. Tony is a guy with family and "family" problems.
     
  15. May 21, 2007 #35 of 123
    pmyers

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    It looked familiar to me too, but my first thought was it looked like a house that I had seen on This Old House.
     
  16. May 21, 2007 #36 of 123
    DanB

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    The writers should have off'ed Robert Iler (aka A.J.) when he got into legal trouble a few years ago.
     
  17. May 21, 2007 #37 of 123
    5thcrewman

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    "You're standing at the precipice of a crossroads."

    AJ's 'cry for help' ("I know I heard him") was just that- from the rope to the cinderblock being too long, to the fact that he was trying to asphyxiate himself instead of drowning (more time to be saved), to the timing of the act (right before T gets home).

    When AJ was surfing the web I almost got the feeling that he was a potential American Taliban! :eek:
     
  18. May 21, 2007 #38 of 123
    jgerry

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    I could definitely see a gray-haired head in the uppermost window at Phil's house. The whole scene with Tony and little Carmine yelling outside, and Carmine's explanation about how he had just spoken with him... It seems a little off to me.

    I've never quite understood Little Carmine, he just doesn't seem to have the personality of a mobster. And he's always trying to please everyone. I wonder if he isn't setting Tony up on this one.
     
  19. May 21, 2007 #39 of 123
    amjustice

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    I thought that he was going to kidnap Meadow and begin the pending mob war between NY and NJ. It is going to happen and Tony is going to break out the AR that Bobby gave him in the first episode. It is going to be awesome!
    P.S. The curbstomp was awesome!
     
  20. May 21, 2007 #40 of 123
    xuxa

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    I like Paulie talking about Baja Fresh "I'll send some boys down to Ba Jah Fresh, to pick up some sandwiches"
     

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