The Sopranos - "Made in America" *Series Finale* *spoilers*

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by terpfan1980, Jun 10, 2007.

  1. fliptheflop

    fliptheflop Member

    Sep 20, 2005


    We were at the edge of our seats over a girl parking and a family eating because we know anything can happen to Tony Soprano. But this time it didn't it happened to us. Chase was telling us it was over when we thought it couldn't be. Thats what most people are having a problem with. But thats how things are they end without notice but they only ended for us. Tony lives on and now we're under black out restrictions.

    DCIFRTHS Active Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    New York
    Not even when the power went out right before the climax?
  3. rgr

    rgr Member

    Feb 21, 2003
    I especially liked where, after the black screen near the end, Bob Newhart woke up and realized the whole series had been a dream.
  4. mikeinla

    mikeinla New Member

    Jun 6, 2004

    You've almost got it right. I watched the whole show on the east coast feed and then just the ending on the west coast feed.

    Tony didn't die; there was no one in the restaurant that was going to whack him.

    It was an ordinary restaurant with ordinary people doing ordinary things, including his daughter having trouble parking the car.

    Yet here's this crime boss constantly looking over his shoulder at everyone and every little thing. He's also got a potential RICO indictment hanging over his head.

    The scene was edited to show Tony's paranoia which is his albatross.

    That's David Chase's was of saying that crime doesn't pay. That constant paranoia is his sword of Damocles. If you look at this past season, he's made Tony a far less sympathetic figure, with the killing of Christopher being at the top of the list.

    Would you want to live like that,constantly looking at everyone with the fear that this is your killer?

    The only thing he should have done differently is fade to black instead of just stop. It made a lot of people think the dish had gone out instead of thinking bout the ending.

    The episode itself wasn't very good; it didn't flow very well. It seems like the decision to kill Phil and end the war happened rather suddenly. I think that's what makes the ending seem worse.

    If you watch the ending just by itself (as I did on the west coast feed), it's actually pretty good.

    DCIFRTHS Active Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    New York


    Very simply: My problem is that it could be interpreted either way. Personally I like the "paranoia" theory best. That's worse than being dead - in my book anyway...

    Regarding Christopher: In the context of the show, I don't feel that killing Christopher was that horrible. Tony has done much worse, and in a sick kind of way, he may have actually been "doing good" by protecting Christopher's little girl.
  6. Clarkey

    Clarkey We Get Signal

    Dec 29, 2004
  7. anom

    anom Enlightened

    Apr 18, 2005
    Anyone who thought in that final scene that Chase would go all Scorsese with dramatic tension building to a cathartic orgy of violence over a pop music soundtrack just hasn't been paying attention to the show for the past nine years.

    Nothing gets wrapped up in tidy little packages on The Sopranos (well, except for Joey Pantoliano's head). Some people love that, some are driven crazy by it, but there it is. I don't know why anyone expected this to change last night.
  8. Mr. Soze

    Mr. Soze Back by popular demand

    Nov 1, 2002
    The 75006...
    Having slept on it, I am even more irritated at myself for sticking with the show for so long. I should never have paid any attention to all the apologists for this nonsense ("Chase is a genius", "Just wait, something great is just about to happen" etc.) and cut bait.

    All the BS about the show having this "long arc" is just that. The show was never intended to go this long, and real real life, especially Nancy Marchand's death changed the course of the show, and for the worse, IMO.

    There, I got it out. Cut to blank screen. :D
  9. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

    Oct 17, 2000
    I think Chase's biggest problem is he over-estimated his audience...
  10. fmowry

    fmowry Well-Known Member

    Apr 30, 2002
    Baltimore, MD
    For those as bad with names as I am, here's Carlo, who flipped and would testify against Tony:


  11. SullyND

    SullyND L: 31-14 (10-2) TCF Club

    Dec 30, 2004
    Chicago Burbs
    Not last night, but I will cancel today.
  12. snowjay

    snowjay 40mph couch potato

    Mar 26, 2007
    Almost in...
    For the Tony got whacked conspirators...

    What hit man sits in the diner and watches them, then goes to the bathroom?

    Too many witnesses, too many people to recognize a face. They usually just walk in, rip off a few rounds and walk out.
  13. Anubys

    Anubys All About Footwork

    Jul 16, 2004
    wow...over 200 posts already...

    count me in the minority who loved it...just the perfect Soprano ep with boring family gatherings and family drama, sprinkled with a little mob action...only problem is: no Melphi! :p

    LOVED, loved, loved the FBI guy screaming "we're gonna win!"...

    Don't believe Tony is dead...
  14. Chapper1

    Chapper1 Broncos Faithful

    Jan 1, 2004
    Appleton, WI
    For everyone wondering who it was that killed Phil, he was Benny from the NJ mob. He has been on the show for a few seasons now. Actor's name is Max Casella

    I loved how Phil died, BTW...
  15. crazywater

    crazywater USS TiVo NCC-1780

    Mar 7, 2001
    Yes I am sure Chase's intention was to make everyone thing their cable/satellite signal went out...just brilliant!

    What ending would have been ok for me? An ending. I would have been happier if NJ got nuked, or if there was a slow fade showing them eating onion rings, or how about all of the possible "bad guys" in the diner slowly start to make their way towards Tony for an undetermined reason and then a slow fade...

    Anything but the "my cable went out" moment...
  16. angbear1985

    angbear1985 Τι ποτέ !

    Aug 25, 2006
    I've not had a chance to read all these posts... Sorry, going to read them in a moment. But ....
    What sort of an ending? "Don't STOP"... screen goes blank. My Dad called me, thought that his cable went out, too! Just, a weird ending.

    And - what was with the cat ?????
  17. SoupMan

    SoupMan Well-Known Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    I don't think it was Benny. It was the guy whose name Paulie was making fun of in the back of the Bing. I can't remember the name, but Paulie cracked "What kind of Itailan name is that?" or something.
  18. crazywater

    crazywater USS TiVo NCC-1780

    Mar 7, 2001
    Oh really...just like Season 4 was going to be it....How'd that work out?
  19. Orthogon

    Orthogon New Member

    Jul 26, 2004
    Mt. Airy, MD

    Probable a smeek, but this was the first comment in the thread that felt the same way about the ending that I did.
  20. minorthr

    minorthr Your Ad here

    Nov 24, 2001
    After having some time to sleep on it this episode just left more questions. What was with the freaking cat? Who was the woman the FBI guy was banging and why was she giving him the evil eyes? Why did the FBI guy say looks like we are going to win this one? Wasn't Meadow driving that Lexus that parallel parks itself ? Did junior really lose it, I thought he was always faking?

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