The Shield "Extraction" 1/10/2006 Season 5 Premiere *spoilers*

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  1. Ace Deprave

    Ace Deprave Tivo and Crawfish!

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    Don't most people at least have VCRs?
     
  2. Meathead

    Meathead LSU Tiger!

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    Watching seasons 1-4 as they were re-broadcast every Saturday night over the last couple months REALLY helped me remember a lot of stuff. So I have most of the back story fresh in my mind going into this episode & that certainly paid off with a lot of the more subtle references.

    Not a very smart move to drop the strike team card on the guy IMO, and that is the kind of thing that will end up catching up to them with IAD on their backs.

    I already know that I am going to hate Forest Whitaker's character more than I hate Acaveda. He has this almost Rain Man-esque way of talking, moving, and smiling. The whole episode my wife kept saying, "I don't like this guy, he is a freaking weirdo." I understand he is trying to be smart & deceptive, but at the same time, he is just plan awkward.

    I think the cat episode (I think it was in Season 2) gave us a view into the fact that Dutch is smart, but he has his own deep seeded issues. He always was viewed as the pushover ***** until he took Billings down in the fight in the parking lot & challenged Vic to fight at the end of last season. I would look for his rage issues to grow this year.

    The heroin belonged to a guy named Pretario. Lem stole the brick form him. He wound up dead & his girl (the new IAD CI that Vic is helping) was on the line for it because they thought she stole them. They returned the "fake" heroin to Pitarrio's boss & he let her off the hook.

    He is actually the detective who was taking all of Dutch & Claudette's cases when they were on the DA's poop list & he was also the one who was too scared to stop the murder at the car wash last season. The chief wanted a yes man jellyfish & this guy certainly fits the bill.

    Vic has more leadership than anyone in that house, but could you imagine the nightmare for the department if they put him in charge?

    As was already stated, the cards are old. Vic first used them when he busted up the gang initiation in season 1. He did not use them much last season because he was on a relatively tight leash under Capt. Rawling (Glenn Close) and focused on situations where he did not need to draw attention to his team.

    That got tied up. When he came out of his coma, they convinced him that he hit Shane's wife with an iron. He was convinced that he was the one that was hit (which he was), but they convinced him that he was so mistaken that he probably should not say anything to anyone & probably not come back. It sucked because I really liked the guy & I really dislike Shane.

    It would make the most sense. In the second to last episode of season 4 (approximately 6 months prior to the season 5 premier), Vic was on a protection stakeout at Capt Rawling's house in the hood. Danny was with him. They started to kiss & enjoy some "mutual manual stimulation" in the car. If you remember from the first season, they used to carry on a pretty regular affair, so them sleeping together is not a far stretch at all.

    I am just shocked that there aren't a bunch of little Vic's running around Farmington with all the tail that Vic is able to pull!

    Capt Rawling had Lem transferred back to the Barn full time before the end of last season (after Vic exposed Shane's plan to kill him) because he was being so helpful with the seizures. Vic had to keep Lem distant because of the bad blood between him & Shane. When that was starightened out, he got him transferred back.

    Army killed his career when he refused to take the polygraph & invoked his PBA union rights. As he refused, they told him that it would kill his career, so that gives us his exit.

    Acaveda has had a hard on for Vic since day one because he could never control him. He hated that he was more liked & more respected in the house than he was, even though he knew (well, suspected) that he was dirty. Even when he became Councilman last season, he kept pushing Catp Rawling to sick IAD on Vic. I was actually more suprised by the fact that when Whitaker's character asked for his help that he simply said "You have my letter, that is all I want to say." I would have thought he would be jumping out of his skin to help IAD go after Vic.
     
  3. jubrand

    jubrand Temporarily Stairs

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    I'm never forgiving Forest Whitaker for The Crying Game anyway, so it's not a stretch to hate him.
     
  4. Idearat

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    Aceveda isn't so squeeky clean himself. His rape issues with the hooker might come up to bite him in the butt. Vic also threatened him with setting up the guy who assaulted him to be killed by Antwon last season. Those are only the things we know about. While he wants to get Vic, he may be more than a little worried that Vic's someone who can get him back.
     
  5. windracer

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    Thanks for the recaps, excellent job! :up:
     
  6. Meathead

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    I agree, Aceveda has some skeletons in his closet. But his hatred of Vic runs pretty deep. If there was a way for him to "out" Vic to IAD & somehow keep his name out of it, I would think he would look for that opportunity.

    I loathe Aceveda every time I see him. He is a typical power hungry prick that cannot stand when people do not bend over backwards & bow down to him. I hope he gets burned by the hooker and the murder this season. I would also love it if Juan Rizano's girlfriend actually had the pictures of Acaveda blowing him & sent them to the press.
     
  7. jubrand

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    A little off-topic, but did anyone else see the actor that played Juan Rizano on Prison Break? After that ep of the Shield, he's always going to be "that guy who made Aceveda blow him", no matter what he's in.
     
  8. mdsutherland

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    I didn't think that at all. Put yourself in his situation. Someone just tried to push his partner over the rail and he was protecting her.

    The show was a great start to the season and if they are going to end they are setting it up well. I'm not ready for it to leave but if it going to I want it to go out with a bang.
     
  9. crowfan

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    Really? That was my first thought. His eyes were crazy, and everyone else had to pull Dutch off him. I actually thought, "here's the cat-strangling thing coming back."
     
  10. newsposter

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    Did anyone get dutch being 'more' than protective and that he really liked her in more than a friend way?
     
  11. mdsutherland

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    I agree that he has some rage issues but I think he was justified for what he was doing. Look what the strike team did to the guy that hit one of theirs.
     
  12. mdsutherland

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    I didn't see it that way. If anything I think he can tell there is something wrong with her so he is even more protective but who knows I could just have read it all wrong.
     
  13. crowfan

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    Oh, he was justified. I just feel like, if they weren't there to pull him off, that guy would have ended up dead. Not that there's anything wrong with that. :) I'm just arguing that there was a connection between the cat strangling and the almost-strangling of the perp.
     
  14. Meathead

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    Dutch...much like Hooch...is CRAZY!
     
  15. newsposter

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    ok i found the quote as to why my co worker thinks this is the last season

    • One of cable's most acclaimed series is back with the season premiere of The Shield (FX, 10 p.m. ET/PT). Having decided he's a liability, the department would like Vic (Michael Chiklis) to retire early, which seems unlikely to happen before the series finale.


    then i found this other article
    http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs...NTERTAINMENT12/601100303/1339/ENTERTAINMENT06


     
  16. mdsutherland

    mdsutherland Act Accordingly

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    I think writing the second have gives them some flexability on what is going to happen. I assume it is FX that is the deciding factor if it is going to end its run right? Michael Chiklis is the only real star and I haven't heard him say he wants it to end.
     
  17. marcello696

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    I was wondering why Forrest Whittaker was only signed up for 11 episodes but if Shawn Ryan hasn't even written the final 10 episodes then it is still possile he will be back after the hiatus.

    Just like the Sopranos The Shield is really 2 seasons but being called one season since the final 10 episodes will be a continuation of the current season since many of the storylines will not be resolved at the break.
     
  18. vikingguy

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    I also think it goes back to him strangling the cat. Dutch normally would of justsubdued the suspect and that would be it. The look he had said to me he wanted to kill this guy. There is no doubt in my mind if the others would of not pulled off dutch he would of killed the guy and enjoyed it. I really really like the direction they are going with dutch it has taken a while but it will be a fun ride.
     
  19. ToddAtl

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    At first,I was surprised by the style and mannerisms Forrest Whitaker was using with his character but it grew on my pretty quickly. I think this are shaping up to a great season!
     
  20. lonwolf615

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    I really, REALLY, like how Lem and Ronnie look to have a bigger role in the plotlines this year. Long overdue...
     

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