"The Rookie"--I actually enjoyed it

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  1. Aug 5, 2019 #161 of 206
    mattack

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    yeah he's one of those guys who's basically always the same.
     
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    laria

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    I just finally finished up the season tonight. Bummed she is not going to be back. :(
     
  3. Aug 6, 2019 #163 of 206
    Azlen

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    She has now named him as the one who allegedly harassed her.

     
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    laria

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    The detective was the one that I was thinking maybe it was. Their vibe on the show was weird.
     
  5. Aug 6, 2019 #165 of 206
    jcondon

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    "and Sexually Assaulted by Hair Department Head Sally Nicole Ciganovich".

    Seems she did even worse then then Demetrius Grosse. He "only" harassed her. The hairdresser head assaulted her?

    Am I reading that right?
     
  6. Aug 6, 2019 #166 of 206
    Amnesia

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    Yes, that's what she's saying.
     
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    Wil

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    Her name is Sallie. Nominated for an Emmy (part of team) for So You Think You Can Dance. Career probably destroyed by this; more makeup artists than TV stars around.
     
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    DouglasPHill

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    I don't understand how a female hair stylist harmed the actress.
     
  9. Aug 6, 2019 #169 of 206
    Mikeguy

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    Wow. I hope that she comes through well, come what may, and thrives.

    If true, I don't understand how the show's management could not have started an investigation immediately, upon a claim being made; that HR 101. That's a major screw-up.
     
  10. Aug 6, 2019 #170 of 206
    Mikeguy

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    Racially-based bullying and discrimination, and unwelcomed sexual touching. The details behind this have not been publicly released.
     
  11. Aug 6, 2019 #171 of 206
    Allanon

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    The Instagram post in the Deadline article Amnesia posted states what happened.
     
  12. Aug 6, 2019 #172 of 206
    Wil

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    Sorry, but there are no details in that article at all about the interactions between the hairdresser and the series costar, just the charged words: bullying, harassment, inappropriate comments.
     
  13. Aug 6, 2019 #173 of 206
    Allanon

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    Did you read the update and Instagram post?
     
  14. Aug 6, 2019 #174 of 206
    Wil

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    I read it when it came out (disclaimer: I have 2nd/3rd degree of separation knowledge of Sallie and my initial reaction was stunned disbelief). I will check on updates.
     
  15. Aug 6, 2019 #175 of 206
    laria

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    The Instagram post was updated and a lot more details were added than were there initially, when the article was written.
     
  16. Aug 6, 2019 #176 of 206
    Wil

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    Thanks. I have just looked. I wouldn't call it updating as much as retroactive editing, but I still see no details of the specific acts Sallie is charged with. "Sexual assault" is still just the name of a charge, for example. But I do see, on more widely looking around, that I am on the wrong side of the momentum on this issue and I expect the "updates" to further ratchet up. I have no facts to back up my instinctive disbelief of these charges, so Sallie is guilty until proven innocent. I will retreat in disorder.
     
  17. Aug 6, 2019 #177 of 206
    MizzouJames

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    In a courtroom trial she would be presumed innocent, like all defendants in theory.

    If you and 100 other people witnessed a crime without any doubt at all in any of your minds, and the crime was caught on 50 cameras, the defendant would still be presumed innocent in a trial, even if you 100% knew they were guilty.
     
  18. Aug 6, 2019 #178 of 206
    laria

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    I'm a software developer... "update" and "edit" mean the same thing to me. :)
     
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    Amnesia

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    To be fair, the Instagram post detailed what Afton said happened.
     
  20. Aug 6, 2019 #180 of 206
    Azlen

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    There are two separate and distinct parts of this that both have two sides. The first is what actually happened as far as the harassment and bullying allegations go and secondly how it was handled when it was initially reported. They can determine that nothing wrong happened on the first but still say it wasn't handled correctly or say the allegations were dealt with correctly and the incident happened as she described or some other combination of right and wrong.
     

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