The Orville S2E3 - Home (spoilers)

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by stile99, Jan 11, 2019.

  1. Amnesia

    Amnesia The Question

    Jan 30, 2005
    Boston, MA
    The Union obviously has artificial gravity. I didn't understand why it was so difficult for them to come up with physical therapy that utilized that technology instead of her having to go back to her planet.
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  2. Unbeliever

    Unbeliever Random Nobody

    Feb 3, 2001
    Altadena, CA
    They did. Though the plot demanded that it happened after Alara had her revelation.

    --Carlos V.
  3. amcanzo

    amcanzo Member

    Nov 12, 2004
    This was on IMDB.
    Halston Sage (Alara) had to be written off the series due to her close personal relationship with Seth MacFarlane. New studio policies strictly forbid inter-cast relationships due to bad press and the hostile work environment created by said relationship.
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  4. TonyD79

    TonyD79 Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    Columbia, MD

    Guess we have to cancel Morning Joe.

    P. S. Can’t find a real news report that backs that up. Stories posted yesterday mentioned schedule conflicts.
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  5. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Raconteur TCF Club

    Jan 6, 2003
    You mean Esophagus Man.
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  6. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    Jun 12, 2004
    Fishers, IN
  7. NJChris

    NJChris Kermie Loves Elmo TCF Club

    May 11, 2001
    I really liked this episode. I found the characters to be well written and the story had a good emotional punch to it. I thought it was one of the best ones so far.

    I do hope she comes back, tho. Maybe it's like the killing off of Brian on Family Guy..
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  8. Donbadabon

    Donbadabon Geocacher

    Mar 5, 2002
    Nashville, TN
    Giving up a regular paycheck on a show just to date the executive producer is crazy to me.
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  9. stile99

    stile99 Well-Known Member

    Feb 26, 2002
    OK, look. Here's the thing about the rumors. They may or may not be true, and each individual is free to believe what they want to believe. I've also seen it written that she left the show because they broke up, here's an article saying it's because they insisted on continuing dating. Fact is if they ever were dating, she's moved on and is dating someone else, but I just want to say two things about the Radar article referenced.

    One, check the source. Believe what they print and you probably read Weekly World News concerned about The Bat Boy. Secondly, even if you DO believe what they say, read that article again. They think The Orville is a Star Trek prequel and a dark comedy. Co-workers went to dinner, some idiot took a picture, and now they're dating. That is literally the only 'evidence' available, including the article referenced which has another family member, one closer to Halston, say they're just friends (but again, also says The Orville is a prequel and a dark comedy).
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  10. MScottC

    MScottC Active Member

    Sep 11, 2004
    I've been in the television editing business for over 40 years. I can tell you that over the years, the pace of editing has picked up incredibly. You really don't need to be in the business to notice this. This show is a parody of TNG, there's no doubt about that. The entire show emulates TNG. So the "slow or late fades to black" were the norm of the time. While the technology to create the show has changed, McFarlane and his crew are matching the look and pace that TV used in the 80s.
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  11. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    I never noticed it.
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  12. ncbill

    ncbill Member

    Sep 1, 2007
    Western NC
    "that ladle looks dirty"

    didn't see that coming...nice twist
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  13. LoadStar

    LoadStar LOAD"*",8,1

    Jul 24, 2001
    Milwaukee, WI
    I really enjoyed this episode.

    It's a shame to see Halston Sage leave the show at least temporarily. I hope it is temporary, because she really did add something unique to the mix of characters on this show. I liked her character's blend of physical strength with a whole heaping load of personal insecurity. It was something different from bravado that the other characters convey.

    I still *strongly* dispute that it's a parody.

    A quick google for a definition of a parody comes up with "an imitation of the style of a particular writer, artist, or genre" - which I'd agree with. However, the definition continues "with deliberate exaggeration for comic effect." I don't see any of that on this show. There's comedy, yes, but no deliberate exaggeration.

    A parody generally exists to ridicule elements of the thing it is parodying. As far as I can tell, the last thing that Seth McFarlane wants to do is ridicule anything about Star Trek. He's producing his own Star Trek show in his own style by adding in some comedic elements, but clearly with love and respect for the original.

    I'd say that a better term would either be an homage or a pastiche. Pastiche conveys a more critical tone than homage does, but both would be more accurate than parody.
  14. Bierboy

    Bierboy Seasoned gas passer

    Jun 12, 2004
    Fishers, IN
    I would say there has been SOME exaggeration for comedic effect, but recent episodes haven't shown much, if any of it...
  15. justen_m

    justen_m Cheesehead

    Jan 14, 2004
    Boise, ID
    I agree with everything in LoadStar's post, from Halston Sage to Orville not being a parody. Going into the first episode, based on previews/commercials, I expected it to be a parody. It turned out not to be. It is sci-fi with Seth McFarlane's brand of humor. Spaceballs is a parody. Orville isn't.

    I hope the rumors that Jessica Szohr is the new security officer (Jessica Szohr On Set Of The Orville As New Security Chief?) are true. I can't stand the current new one (elephant-looking, but with a 2nd esophagus instead of a trunk) played by Patrick Warburton. I like him as an actor, but the character is beyond annoying. I already miss Alara.
  16. TonyD79

    TonyD79 Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    Columbia, MD
    I’m on board with homage.

    As for the comedic effect, thankfully, this season has toned it down. Now it is more Star Trek Lite, which is fine with me. Every show doesn’t have to be brooding or heavy. Nice light, fun sci fi entertainment without the strained humor from the first few episodes.
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  17. JYoung

    JYoung Series 3

    Jan 16, 2002
    Los Angeles
    In terms of the show, I believe those two are only co-workers while Sage was allegedly dating her boss.
    Different power dynamic.

    That said, to back up @stile99, take a look at this piece over at

    It points out that Sage has been doing movies and other roles so there may be scheduling issues involved and that she's currently involved with Charlie Puth and may not have been dating McFarlane.

    Bottom line, based on what's out there, we don't know why Halston Sage is off the show and whether or not it's temporary or permanent.
  18. TonyD79

    TonyD79 Well-Known Member

    Jan 4, 2002
    Columbia, MD
    The IMDB note says intercast.

    So, because someone posted an unfounded rumor on IMDb, we are going to go with it.

    And there is nothing in any story saying there is a studio rule. What do you do if an actress is married to a producer who wants to work together?
  19. Tony_T

    Tony_T Well-Known Member

    Nov 2, 2017
    So... When will Mila Kunis and Seth Green be boarding the Orville? ;)
  20. rpj22

    rpj22 Member

    Mar 26, 2016
    Half the humor on this show consists of nothing more than having crew members speak or act in unprofessional ways. The first time some officer spoke like a teenager when addressing his C.O. I probably smiled out of surprise. Since then, I just roll my eyes.

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