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The Orville, "Firestorm" S01E10 OAD 11/16/17

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Unbeliever, Nov 17, 2017.

  1. OregonDuck

    OregonDuck I refuse to fold towels

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    Not at all. I'm completely serious. I could be crazy, though.
     
  2. OregonDuck

    OregonDuck I refuse to fold towels

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    No. I just really liked how the writers forced me to believe that that crazy clown was real.
     
  3. IndyJones1023

    IndyJones1023 Auteur

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    Let's go with that.
     
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  4. OregonDuck

    OregonDuck I refuse to fold towels

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    You ain't the only one Indy. I'm starting to wonder...
     
  5. That Don Guy

    That Don Guy Now with more GB

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    I'm a little surprised at the positive response, given that it's a "it was all a dream/simulation" episode. It smacks of Family Guy (in particular, the episode where Stewie "kills" Lois, and at the end, Stewie and Brian have a discussion about how the fans will accept it).

    No wonder - "Written by Cherry Chevapravatdumrong" (longtime FG writer, and also a producer on this show).
     
  6. Unbeliever

    Unbeliever Random Nobody

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    At least it wasn't like The Sopranos where it ended in mid-sent....


    --Carlos "enjoyed the ride" V.
     
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  7. Saturn_V

    Saturn_V Now with flavor!

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    The best part of this episode was the suspense. Firestorm pulled off what Trek never could- making things genuinely scary.

    But the instant the bridge crew all saw the clown.... I actually said "Holodeck!"
     
  8. SNJpage1

    SNJpage1 Well-Known Member

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    The TV section of our local paper said that the show has been renewed for a 2nd season.
     
  9. smbaker

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    I had it pegged as Beverly Crusher in a Warp Bubble. I didn't see the holodeck thing coming until it happened.

    I enjoyed the episode, though the scary bits kinda bothered the wife a bit.

    The show doesn't feel quite as strong to me as the first few episodes did, which were heavy on trek-like social commentary. Although this was a Kitan-centric episode, Bortus really stole the episode, as he often does.
     
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  10. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    So how exactly does the holodeck work with respect to Alara moving around? If she ran down the hall, she'd eventually run into the wall of the holodeck chamber. So does that chamber have some kind of special floor that allows the subject to move around within the simulation while staying roughly in the middle of the room?
     
  11. MikeCC

    MikeCC TiVotee

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    Don't pull at that thread.
     
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  12. allan

    allan Just someone TCF Club

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    It was pretty clear that it wasn't real. I didn't suspect the holodeck, probably because I didn't know about mind-wipes. Is it bad that my first thought about Malloy getting eaten was, "Couldn't be so lucky"? :D
     
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  13. thewebgal

    thewebgal MacAphile AV geek

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    As long as they show some restraint on holodeck based stories I'll be happy -
    it got to be a regular thing on ST:TNG and they used it way too often there as a story device.
     
  14. Saturn_V

    Saturn_V Now with flavor!

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    Oklahoma...
    I didn't mind the Holosuite episodes on DS9, Actually quite fond a few of them. (Our Man Bashir, Paper Moon and Take Me Out to the Holosuite) But yes, it was very tired trope on TNG and VOY.

    I didn't mind them using the holodeck trope in The Orville- mostly because it was well-executed suspense. But I think the story would've been stronger with Bortas instead of Alara.
     
  15. IndyJones1023

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    Uh, yeah. They showed exactly that happening.
     
  16. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    They did? In the shot where they revealed she was on the holodeck, it didn't look like the floor was moving at all. It looked like she was running in place. But are you saying that's what they were trying to portray?
     
  17. TonyD79

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    I took it that way. Just like if you are running on a treadmill.
     
  18. tim1724

    tim1724 Active Member TCF Club

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    I don't remember the line exactly, but I laughed out loud when the captain said something about not being much of a writer (while working on the letter to the dead crew member's parents). I had to agree with that. (I think he wrote far too many episodes this season. My favorite episodes, including this one, have mostly been the ones written by other people.)
     
  19. IndyJones1023

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    Yes, she was jogging down a corridor, but the corridor was moving under her feet. To her it felt like she was moving forward, but in reality she was jogging in place.
     
  20. JYoung

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    The TNG Technical Manual stated that the Holodeck can generate a "floor" just like it can generate a solid wall and will "scroll" the surrounding environment as a person walks/runs like a large treadmill.
    (There's a line in Elementary, Dear Data where someone comments on how the simulation is using the space most efficiently.)

    I assume that the "environmental simulators" of the Orville does something similar.
     

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