The Nightly Show with Larry Wilmore

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    MikeAndrews

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    aindik

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    Did he/they get sued over the original name?

    I thought it was going to be called The Minority Report.
     
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    I'm not optimistic. I don't know how it can come even close to living up to its predecessor, The Colbert Report.
     
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    Yeah, I think the new title works better. The original title was clever but I think it also had the possibility of pigeonholing the show.

    I was so used to watching The Daily Show and Colbert together that it felt weird to only have one show available to watch for a couple of weeks.
     
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    gastrof

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    I wonder if the original title was an attempt to keep "The Colbert Report" alive, simply removing his name from the title and inserting another term? ("This is the same show, we'll keep the same atmosphere.")
     
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    DevdogAZ

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    Agreed. I thought the original name was genius, but once they changed it and I thought about it, I realized that it had the potential to turn away viewers who weren't familiar with Wilmore or what the show was about.

    No, I don't think there was ever any intention of the show continuing the Colbert format. That character, and therefore the whole show built around that character, were so unique that the only choice Comedy Central had was to do something completely different. Any attempt to replicate the feel of Colbert would just come across like amateur hour.
     
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    So it's going to take some time for the writing staff to gel with regards to comedy. I get that. But the talking heads lineup is a horrific idea and but they seem to have completely anchored the show around it. (See Larry's ridiculously long desk.)

    I am not optimistic. Then again I also thought Colbert would never be able to keep his schtick going for years.
     
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    Yes it is. They've said that this show is sort of a comedic version of a "Meet the Press" panel-type show. The most recent analogy they gave was "if 'The Daily Show' and 'Politically Incorrect' had a baby."
     
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    aindik

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    Did I read correctly that the panel on this show is scripted? That's awful.
     
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    DevdogAZ

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    I agree that the first episode was really rough. I liked the first segment with Larry just doing his jokes about the news, but once they went to the panel it lost all momentum. They were talking about these subjects as if a few minutes of discussion would allow them to solve all the world's problems. It was as if they were saying that the last 50 years of race relations could have been improved if people had simply listened to the opinions of these five nobodies.
     
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    I guess I'm a lone voice, but I liked the panel format aside from its resemblance to Real Time. I think it will hit its pace.

    I'm pretty certain that the panel wasn't scripted. Read further down the NYT article and in November they were considering having a "real" panel discussion rather than a scripted one.
     
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    ElJay

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    Yuck. I can't believe Jon Stewart is producing something like this. The only thing (very rarely) good about "Meet the Press" is when newsmakers are on. The panel stuff is a total waste of time.
     
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    DevdogAZ

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    Was anyone saying that the panel was scripted? I can't imagine anyone would think that if they watched the show. It was very rough and poorly produced. I do think the questions that Larry asked the panel were pre-planned, but I don't know if the panelists had seen them and I'm certain that their answers weren't scripted. It was too much of a mess for that to be true.
     
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    I was lukewarm on the premiere. It didn't feel overwhelmingly good/insightful/cutting or bad/stupid. Though maybe slightly leaning toward the "weak" side. Maybe slightly non-committal, like he hadn't decided the level of snark and whether to be a character.

    Though I'll note I instantly disliked The Colbert Report when it started. A friend or two said they really liked it, so i think I gave it another chance, and warmed up to it. Then after the series on PACs and super PACs, I was completely won over.

    I'll give him a little while to find his groove.
     
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    It was rough, but no more so than most other shows with first-time hosts. I'll definitely keep watching: I'd really like to see an alternative take on stories, if they can do that.
     
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    The NY Times article from November indiciated that at that time the show was going to include a scripted panel discussion (The Daily Show sometimes has similar sketches) but that they were considering having an actual panel discussion.

    aindik's post was from before the premiere aired so I assume he was basing his comment from that article or a similar one.
     
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    cheesesteak

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    I watched the premiere. I liked it but it'll take a while to get used to. I'm used to a format of two comedy segments followed by a "serious" interview that I 50% blow off. This show looks like it wants to do a one comedy bit followed by an expanded panel discussion format.

    There's no way that panel discussion was scripted. The questions probably were but not the responses.

    It'll have some growing pains but I like Larry Wilmore and his work a lot.
     
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    aindik

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    Yes, by "read correctly" I was talking about the article, a link to which was posted earlier in the thread. I didn't watch the show.
     
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    NorthAlabama

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    larry wilmore needs to stop explaining his show, and deliver his show, discover what's working, and fix what isn't.

    i'm giving him tons of leeway to get this vehicle up and running, but his viewers have seen tv (and comedy) before, and let's face it, there's nothing groundbreaking here - when each segment of his show needs a descriptor, it's not working.
     

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