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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Gunnyman, Nov 10, 2014.
Fantastic season. Less in-your-face preachiness, more storytelling.
And some very lucky timely stuff, even though they are 18 months behind.
And stuff that was probably easy to figure out would happen (TNR type blowup), but very smart in doing it.
Holy crap. Yeah you're absolutely right.
wow. i totally did not get that either !!!
I was impressed that they were so subtle about it. Maybe that was a mistake...
Me either, but it makes sense when I think about it.
It was a total a-ha moment for me when they showed the untouched bedroll at the end of the scene. I even said "Well done" out loud even though I was watching by myself.
Great season indeed, and great episode. It did take me until the final scene in his cell with the untouched bed to realize what it was all about.
And, RIP Charlie.
Same here. The bedroll was the trigger for me.
Between Will, President Bartlet, and Casey McCall, Aaron Sorkin has got some seriously unresolved daddy issues.
Awesome season. Awesome show.
And I think his increasing level of sophistication as his scenes progressed was a neat touch, too...at first, he was plausible as a relatively uneducated working-class type, but he got more and more eloquent as the episode progressed until I was rolling my eyes at his sophisticated rhetoric. And then it turns out it wasn't the writer being lazy, it was just Will's imagination getting lazier as his incarceration dragged on.
I didn't get it until I was thinking about it 30 minutes after the show. Between the cellmate's bedroll, and him knowing things he shouldn't, that clinched it.
Regarding Charlie, I actually said to myself, "The way he's yelling, I bet he has a heart attack."
I thought it was a bad episode. The Will in prison stuff was ok, I liked the celeb stalker and college sexual assault storylines, but I don't understand what they are doing with most of the rest of the stories. Was this season unexpectedly cut short? Why did they gloss over the AP coverage of their leak story?
I don't understand why they bothered to mention Snowden at all. It seemed really strange that they would have this plot with a Snowden-esque leak, talk about that a little bit, then turn the Snowden story itself into a MacGuffin for more painfully moronic romance horse crap between Jim and Maggie? Do people actually care about them as a couple?
So, Leona put in Pruitt's contract that only Charlie can fire anyone from the news division, and now Charlie is dead.
Seemed like either the app guy or Pruitt would have figured out what Sloan was going to do before she did it. Did he really think she just had a change of heart just standing there talking to him? She's a likely person to be stalked on that app, isn't she?
I kept thinking to myself this is going to end with Charlie dead. So, does it end with them all quitting/getting fired or with the new owner selling?
It wasn't cut short...they've given Sorkin the number of episodes he wants (10 the first season, 9 the second, 6 this season). So for better or worse, what's happening is happening the way Sorkin wanted it to.
I agree, though, that it's written in a way that makes it appear that he didn't know before he started writing that he only has 6 episodes.
It will be interesting to see if the final episode pulls things together in a way that makes sense, or if he really was just throwing stuff out there for the hell of it...
E.g., at this point it looks like Snowden was simply an excuse to get Jim and Maggie alone together for a couple of days, which as pointed out above is an odd choice considering the Lily Hart story which in general replaces Snowden. But maybe there's a reason for that which we haven't seen yet?
not surprising someone died towards the end, my money was on leona, sad it was charlie.
the first clue was the reference to wil's dad being alcoholic, i had a flashback to wil's therapy, and wondered how it was deduced from such a brief encounter. then, when they showed the photo, i put it together, and the bedroll confirmed it.
i never saw it coming, great twist. thier dialog was some of the eps funniest moments.