The New Tivo Android App

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by rboutin2, Jan 6, 2012.

  1. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    I was going to add a post about that.... very irritating. Don't programmers ever USE what they create??
     
  2. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Looks like if you obtain the apk manually, it works on almost all devices. On my Xoom, it just incorrectly draws the remote control... but I don't care about that, anyway. All the other functions work exactly like on my Evo 3D.
     
  3. yunlin12

    yunlin12 Tivonation Citizen

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    But that would require them to actually touch the HW. Remember, they are SW engineers!
     
  4. rahnbo

    rahnbo Well-Known Member

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    I've been using it on the HTC Thunderbolt instead of Tivo Commander. It works pretty good. My biggest complaints are the inability to rearrange season passes and no landscape mode. I don't care so much if the screen can't go landscape but my fingers would appreciate the extra roominess if the virtual keyboard would go into landscape mode.
     
  5. bbrown9

    bbrown9 Active Member TCF Club

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    You get a vote from me for that one. Extremely annoying that there is no way to set a default.
     
  6. beobuff

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    The app runs just fine on my Droid X. There is a bit of sluggishness, but I see the same delays in other apps as well and suspect it is due to the slow processor speed of the phone itself. IAE there is roughly the same guide delay as when running the iOS version on a first gen iPad. It will probably run a good deal faster on a newer dual-processor phone.

    The only real annoyances are having to scan for and select the box each time the app is started, and then not being able to exit the app quickly by using the exit key, as one can with most other Android apps. It is necessary to go into the settings submenu and then sign out, confirm, and then exit.
     
  7. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    Mine *is* a newer, dual-processor 1.2 Ghz, with 1GB of RAM. Most of the application is sluggish but usable. But for some reason, the guide is just WAY too slow. And it is made much, much worse by not loading anything else while the user is reading, so you have to wait all over again when you scroll. Nothing is loaded anticipatorily.
     
  8. crxssi

    crxssi Veteran TiVo User

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    I just found that. Yes- that is GREAT! For those trying to find it, while looking at your shows, click/touch the Android "menu" button and select "Edit". Then you will suddenly see boxes next to each program and directory.

    Now for the question... why not show the boxes all the time? Why have to go through the extra work? Plus, the edit mode is forgotten as soon as you leave "My Shows", why not remember that the user wants it on?

    And I found another huge omission.... when you select a show in "My Shows", it tells you all kinds of useful info, EXCEPT THE DURATION! So you click on "Explore". Guess what? STILL NO DURATION! How long is the show??? Hard to believe they forgot duration! They didn't forget it in the Guide....

    Lots of stuff can be improved, but it is still looking pretty damn good. This app, Margret's postings, the version 20 update, dual core support... TiVo is finally on a roll. Let's hope they keep up the momentum!
     
  9. kturcotte

    kturcotte Active Member

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    This was my initial problem with Tivo Commander as well. Like you, worked fine once I manually entered my Premiere's IP address.
     
  10. ciscokid

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    Anyone get it to connect to a non-premiere Tivo. It won't detect my HD?????? :(
     
  11. ICPGr8Milenko

    ICPGr8Milenko New Member

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    Registered specifically to address this comment. The "openness" you're referring to is what gave Amazon the ability to fully castrate Android and turn it into a shell of it's former self. What you're experiencing isn't an Android experience, but actually an Amazon experience that used Android as it's base framework. Just wanted to make sure you understood that the limitations you're running into are 100% Amazon's doing with the Fire.

    As far as the app, I have it installed on my Galaxy Nexus (ICS 4.0.3) and the app works; however, all the scanning in the world won't seem to let it communicate with my Tivo. Possibly something with the ICS network stack that's stopping it from either actually pinging out to the network to find the Tivo, receive the info back, or something else entirely? Couldn't really say for sure, but I'm certainly disappointed. Such is life. . .
     
  12. gteague

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    i have a unix command you can run to determine whether the tivo will accept remote app connections if you are on mac or unix. i don't have it with me (i'm at work), but if you need it let me know and i'll get it for you tomorrow morning. it allowed me to troubleshoot a very irritating conflict between the iphone tivo app and the elite that eventually turned out to be a bad mac address on my network.

    and i do understand about the fire being a subset of android and from a fierce competitor to google as well. having an iphone and and ipad, it's enjoyable to have a device where i can diddle around with the file system, so for me the fire is an enjoyable toy which lets me access my amazon cloud purchases as well. well worth the money to me, but i can understand it's not meant to convey the whole android experience and there's bound to be frustrations if that's what you expect.

    /guy
     
  13. gteague

    gteague golftango

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    [later note: found the command and a way to run it on windows as well. hope this helps]

    As a troubleshooting step, from a terminal window on a Mac, type the following (including the period at the end.) This also works on Windows if you install Bonjour for Windows first.

    dns-sd -B _tivo-videos._tcp local.​

    The list of available devices should show up as you see below. If you don't see anything listed, DVR Remote won't see them either.

    Browsing for _tivo-videos._tcp.local.
    Timestamp A/R Flags if Domain Service Type Instance Name
    16:14:02.889 Add 3 4 local. _tivo-videos._tcp. MasterBedroom
    16:14:02.889 Add 2 4 local. _tivo-videos._tcp. Living​
     
  14. ICPGr8Milenko

    ICPGr8Milenko New Member

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    Thanks for that! Looks like my problems might be bigger than the Android app. Seems unable to find the Tivo at all. Now to figure out if it's the router or the switch. . .
     
  15. gteague

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    before i found the bad mac address (i do reserved ip's and mac filtering on my network), going into tivo network settings and pretending you are doing the dhcp setup would bring the service back online. but also unplugging and replugging the cat6 cable from the tivo switch connection would do the same thing. but the service would go away some indeterminate amount of time later. it was a bear to troubleshoot considering everything would ping everything else all the time.

    /guy
     
  16. rahnbo

    rahnbo Well-Known Member

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    I take back it back. Although the app is able to see the 2 boxes when trying to select them it reports back the unit as "The unit is unresponsive." Have rebooted everything from the router, phone, Tivo and even reinstalled the app and did a new config. Same thing. Tivo Commander continues to work just fine.
     
  17. whompus60

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    Can you give info as to where to obtain the apk. I can not seem to locate it. I would like to give it a test but the market place claims it not compatible with my droid bionic.

    Ahh. I just found it from your post in another thread. Thanks, I will have to test it tomorrow. Am bad sleepy now.
     
  18. HookdOnTivonics

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    I just installed it on my Galaxy Nexus and it found both of our elites right away.

    I did find one problem. The app doesn't seem to modify season passes correctly. When I went to the season pass manager, I noticed a couple of shows that weren't "new only", so I changed them to First-run only. When I went back to check on them, they still didn't show as "new only".

    Do the changes go through the web site or directly to the boxes?
     
  19. HookdOnTivonics

    HookdOnTivonics Member

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    I can't figure out if it goes through the web or direct, but the season passes finally updated on the app.
     
  20. gteague

    gteague golftango

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    a first glance seems to indicate this app works quite well on the fire. i admit i haven't yet tried to alter anything, just to browse around. lag and speed seem reasonable considering the fire is no speed demon running any app.

    /guy
     

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