The new KNIGHT RIDER, 2/17...what do you think?

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  1. Feb 17, 2008 #21 of 193
    unicorngoddess

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    That was Val Kilmer??? WTF???
     
  2. Feb 17, 2008 #22 of 193
    ebonovic

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    Shelby Cobra is a Special Edition of the Mustang.
     
  3. Feb 17, 2008 #23 of 193
    ebonovic

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    Will Arnett does voice overs for GM advertising... so it was a conflict of interest.

    So yes, it was Val Kilmer...
    And the fact that it was done later in the editing prociess, is probably why the voice of K.I.3.T was so dominant out of the center channel.
     
  4. Feb 17, 2008 #24 of 193
    Test

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    CONFIRMED...Arnett couldn't do it because he had a contract to voice the commercials for GM, VERY last minute this came up and he had to back out. Val Kilmer stepped in...I'll look for a link

    edit: here is where I read it first
    http://www.slashfilm.com/2008/02/06/val-kilmer-is-kitt-in-knight-rider-replaces-will-arnett/
     
  5. Feb 17, 2008 #25 of 193
    crunch3k

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    It's OK...I like the cast and the car technology, the plot and dialog is a bit contrived and cheesy.

    REALLY tired of seeing the "MY DAD IS BETTER THAN YOUR DAD Tomorrow 9/8c" and the NBC Bug....especially during the darker scenes, it's really distracting!
     
  6. Feb 17, 2008 #26 of 193
    Langree

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    Arnett had to back out due to conflict of interest (he's the voice of GMC Trucks iirc), Kilmer came in and recorded in the last week or so.
     
  7. Feb 17, 2008 #27 of 193
    Langree

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    Ya, it sounded "plugged in" like when the mother on the Sapranos died and they dubbed her in.
     
  8. Feb 17, 2008 #28 of 193
    LoadStar

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    See, and I thought they DID get carried away with it. They seemed to wedge it in there just to show "oooh, look at the really cool effect we can do!"

    The cast wasn't bad, except for Val Kilmer. Someone somewhere along the way apparently told him to talk like he'd imagine a computer would talk like. That was the worst part of all... William Daniels' KITT had a sense of humor and was very human, while Val Kilmer's KITT was just annoying as hell.

    The rapid fire scene changes were annoying as heck. I believe someone at the studio or the network figured that people would stop paying attention if a scene lasted longer than 30 seconds. I don't think there was a single scene in the entire two hours that lasted for more than 2 consecutive minutes. Ironically, doing that was actually what got me to stop paying attention to the movie.

    The plane at the end was a clear case of something that sounded good on paper, but completely impractical for use on an ongoing basis (if it makes it that far). Like they'd be able to land a cargo plane just anywhere, particularly if they plan to use it like the semi in the original series, where sometimes they entered and left the semi multiple times in a single episode.

    And of course, the whole movie was like a 2 hour Ford infomercial. It was bad enough having the non-stop product placement in the movie itself, they had to go and do the Ford commercials with Justin Bruening making it all the more obvious. If I wanted that much Ford marketing, I would've spent another day at the auto show.
     
  9. Feb 17, 2008 #29 of 193
    unicorngoddess

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    So was it Will Arnette that did the promos though? Because the promos came out a while back ago (the one that starts out as a car commercial) or was that Val Kilmer too???

    And you would think with someone like Val Kilmer, his name would've been in the opening credits. It wasn't.
     
  10. Feb 17, 2008 #30 of 193
    LoadStar

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    The first promos went out with Will Arnett's voice, yes, including the promo that seemed like a car commercial, with him running down a list of features, the first of which sound fairly normal and the later ones rather fantastic. (I think it may have been this one that got some attention at GM, because with his voice, it DID seem like a GM commercial, except that it features the Ford Mustang Shelby Cobra edition in it.)

    Later promos switched to Val's voice.
     
  11. Feb 17, 2008 #31 of 193
    unicorngoddess

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    Okay. Yeah, then I can see why GM wanted to pull him because that first promo did in fact seem JUST LIKE a car commercial...at least until he started talking about how bullet proofing and such came standard :p

    Of course I had no idea Will Arnett did voice overs exclusively for GM...all those voice over guys sound the same to me :p
     
  12. Feb 17, 2008 #32 of 193
    voidptr

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    If I was a producer, I would have turned around and asked Mike Rowe at that point.

    There's probably a reason why I don't work in TV though.
     
  13. Feb 18, 2008 #33 of 193
    Slider10

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    I thought the show was okay and I'd watch it if it became a series. I think KITT's responses in the first half were extremely computerized and nowhere near the 'human' responses of the original.

    The Hoff was in it, big plus. Normally I'd give a show like this three or four episodes to prove itself, but I guess I need to wait a few months for episodes to be produced if this becomes a show. They're doing this BSG-style.
     
  14. Feb 18, 2008 #34 of 193
    pjenkins

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    this show was a total carbon copy of the original, same cheese w/updated technology. being a fan of the original knight rider, and of cheese, i will continue to watch should it make its way to be an ongoing series :)
     
  15. Feb 18, 2008 #35 of 193
    Amnesia

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    What I meant was that at least they didn't have KITT morph into, say, a Ford Focus.
     
  16. Feb 18, 2008 #36 of 193
    Adam1115

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    It was GREAT IMO!

    But it was more like a 2 hour pilot than a movie. So I hope they make it a series...
     
  17. Feb 18, 2008 #37 of 193
    vertigo235

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    Well, I got about 1 hour and 45 mins in and Im dealing with rain fade from a bad storm we were having tonight.

    But hey, I definetly like it, I will certainly watch if they make it a series. I didn't know about the switch to Val Kilmer but I knew that wasn't Will Arnette, I would prefer Will Arnette, but whatever.
     
  18. Feb 18, 2008 #38 of 193
    hanumang

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    This is definitely something that would have been 3x times better if it were edited down to a single hour (I know that would never have been considered, just sayin') because, as mentioned, the ads were excessive and there were simply too many blank look shots used. I know Ms. Pottier can act (check out Grindhouse, among other things) but damn, she really wasn't given any worthwhile direction here. Most folks are just being spiteful internet geeks when they say this, but her part really was all blank expression. LOL.

    Anyway, to continue the diatribe, all the attempts to create a universe with characters and plot points believable enough to work as a sequel to the original series came across to me as cringeworthy. While David Hasselhoff's cameo was extremely cool as an idea, it was totally lame as written/shot/edited.

    That said, I thought the ideas and execution behind the KITT elements (yes, even the morphing) were excellent. Loved Val Kilmer as the voice.

    Despite the negatives, I'd certainly set the Season Pass for it if the series ever gets greenlit.

    And, yeah, Deanna Russo is TOTALLY adorable.
     
  19. Feb 18, 2008 #39 of 193
    getreal

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    They lost me after the car chase along the cliffs after the car turned into a Mustang and they gave the helicopter the slip.

    As one who never watched the original, how did they resolve the series 20 years ago? Did the inventor have a little one-year old girl back then? And what happened to the mother (Mrs. Inventor)?
     
  20. Feb 18, 2008 #40 of 193
    Test

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    If they left it has him being just a figure in the shadows like right before the commercial break it would have worked better, BUT I think 1 of 2 things may have happened...

    1. They decided to leave it hanging where Michael "The Hoff" Knight could come back and be the head of the foundation.

    or more likely...

    2. No one keeps "The Hoff" in the dark

    edit: is Deanna Russo the daughter of the inventor?
     

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