The MPEG-4 letter from Comcast

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by kupe, Jun 4, 2015.

  1. Jan 3, 2016 #61 of 339
    yukit

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    I actually found out about the MPEG4 conversion from AVS Forums, came here to figure out what to do.

    It is nice to know Tivo is working on an update for the TivoHD units. I happen to have both 652 & 658 with lifetime.
     
  2. Jan 3, 2016 #62 of 339
    lew

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    We don't know if tivo is working on an update.
     
  3. Jan 3, 2016 #63 of 339
    HerronScott

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    Unless someone who is testing has maybe mentioned that it's working, we don't know for *sure*. ;) But Margret's post asking for testers in Comcast's areas where they are rolling out MPEG4 certainly seems to point in that direction.

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=535049

    Dave Zatz has posted that they are as well from his sources.

    http://www.bloglovin.com/blogs/zatz-not-funny-2005499?post=4689862194&group=0&frame_type=a&context=&context_ids=&blog=2005499&frame=1&click=0&user=0&viewer=true

    Scott
     
  4. Jan 3, 2016 #64 of 339
    snerd

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    HerronScott

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    Cool, I think that makes it official then. :)

    "TiVo HD and TiVo HD XL: TiVo is working on a software update which will bring MPEG4 capability to TiVo HD DVRs. Customers can expect this update sometime in the first half of 2016.

    TiVo Series3 HD: IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED! These DVRs will lose all HD cable channels."

    Scott
     
  6. Jan 3, 2016 #66 of 339
    snerd

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    Yeah, well, maybe. TiVo pages aren't exactly renowned for their accuracy ;)

    I'll believe it when it is released and users here are reporting success. Then the "fun" of seeing what kinds of new bugs have scrambled in to eat the old bugs. I love my TiVos the same way that I love my children -- despite their ever changing problems :D
     
  7. Jan 4, 2016 #67 of 339
    lew

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    Maybe tivo is working on something. The tivo page linked by Zatz says tivo stream isn't compatible with mpeg4 programming and a fix is expected by mid 2015. Not sure why old information would be in a new release.

    Tivo has all be "EOLd" the series 3 platform. Tivo didn't even keep a web page to allow series 3 customers the opportunity to schedule recordings via the web. The capability for remote scheduling is available, we can schedule recording from the guide via the old android app. Tivo didn't want to even take the time to have a web link for S3 customers so they can use the old web page.

    There can't be that many S3 units being used. I'd think whatever resources it takes to to add mpeg4 could be better used working on the Bolt.

    I'll be pleasantly surprised if mpeg4 is supported on S3 series units. It won't take much of an issue before tivo decides its not worth it.
     
  8. Jan 4, 2016 #68 of 339
    HerronScott

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    I'm pretty sure it's already working for beta testers. Only question would be if TiVo will really release it and if so when.

    Scott
     
  9. Jan 4, 2016 #69 of 339
    Wil

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    I believe it is faintly possible based on my interpretation of some fragmentary information that the capability in some form (probably from the NZ/OZ work) was already there and shut off, and all that is happening now is that the code has been re-activated, tweaked, and needs to be tested for awhile under fire.

    In some vague discussions I had with people about the potential bounty for an mpeg4 patch, it was going to happen anyway whether Tivo officially backed it or not.
     
  10. Jan 5, 2016 #70 of 339
    yukit

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    Even if they can get MP4 working on TivoHD, this is an incentive for people like me with multiple Tivo devices to finally get rid of the clutter. I will likely to just get some Minis.

    Both S3 & HDs must still be some value to OTA users, even if MPEG4 stuff is not decent.
     
  11. Jan 5, 2016 #71 of 339
    borabora

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    I am little confused about models. Aren't Tivo HD boxes also Series3 boxes? I have two HD boxes -- originally 160GB each -- that are on FW 11.0mxxx, model 652-xxx and are listed as Series3 in the info page. Are these considered S3 or HD wrt this topic? Will they supposedly be upgraded or not?
     
  12. Jan 5, 2016 #72 of 339
    HerronScott

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    Those are considered HD models versus the original S3 OLED to distinguish the hardware differences. If you check the thread where Margret was asking for testers, she only asked for 652 and 658 models (HD and HD XL).

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=535049

    Scott
     
  13. Jan 6, 2016 #73 of 339
    BigJimOutlaw

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    Yeah, they're all from the Series 3 generation. We label them as "S3" and "Tivo HD" for specificity because the THD boxes that came a year after the original S3 were engineered rather differently.

    The fix is for the Tivo HD models, the ones without the amber OLED screen.
     
  14. Jan 12, 2016 #74 of 339
    foamy909

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    I just checked this page again and now it states week of 1/17/16!

    What is really annoying is that I called Tivo Support as my mother has an HD XL with Comcast in the Chicago market, and they pretty much denied the software update was in the works. I tried to tell him where he needed to go on the Tivo website and he would not listen.

    I wanted to call to see what her options were (before seeing the updated page) and sales then offered a new Roamio Pro w/lifetime for $600. I think it is the loyalty deal they are offering.

    I also tried to cancel a grandfathered $6.95 per month for a multi-unit-discount Series 3 that has been dead for a few months and they offered to ship me a new Premiere for $50, which I could then transfer that billing to. They suspended the service for now, but I could go back, get that, and give that to my Mom. It's not lifetime, but it still is a good deal...
     
  15. Jan 12, 2016 #75 of 339
    HerronScott

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    That's good information!

    TiVo HD and TiVo HD XL: TiVo has implemented a software update which will bring MPEG-4 capability to TiVo HD DVRs. Active HD/HDXL customers can expect this update sometime during the week of 1/17/16

    Scott
     
  16. Jan 12, 2016 #76 of 339
    docfruitbat

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    Timing couldn't have been worse as far as I'm concerned. My S3 died over Christmas and I forked out for a 1TB drive and a new PSU. Kinda wished I'd procrastinated a little longer! :( Oh well!
    But, at least I have some time before the cutover, so I guess I'll go window shopping for a Roamio or maybe a Bolt! Wee!! :)
     
  17. Jan 16, 2016 #77 of 339
    cwerdna

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    I only stumbled across the above date today, as I was about to call TiVo to see what my upgrade options are since I have a Tivo HD. Thank you TiVo!

    Per http://forums.xfinity.com/t5/XfinityTV-and-Equipment/HD-Enhanced-Program/m-p/2651615#M138238 my area is slated to go MPEG-4 sometime between Feb 2016 and April 2016.

    Their channel 1995 didn't work before and still doesn't work for me (in a different way now). I guess it's all moot for me now.
     
  18. Jan 18, 2016 #78 of 339
    jgantert

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    So will this update also work with Verizon FiOS? Or only COMCAST?
     
  19. Jan 18, 2016 #79 of 339
    wmcbrine

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    Well, the Series 4+ work with Fios' H.264 channels. I don't think there's any difference in how the providers do them. So, I'd expect it to work with Fios, yes. (I think TiVo would have to go out of their way to make it not work.)

    Fios never really went through (so far) with their H.264 conversion plans, so there only a dozen or so H.264 channels, while I think Comcast is about to undergo a more comprehensive transition.
     
  20. Jan 20, 2016 #80 of 339
    shwru980r

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    Will this update get pushed to Tivo HD's that don't have service but are connected to the internet?
     

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