The MPEG-4 letter from Comcast

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by kupe, Jun 4, 2015.

  1. Dec 22, 2015 #41 of 339
    Wil

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    Doubtful. Tivo has had such great success (poor actually, but fantastic relative to the expectations from their inept legal representation) that they probably have a lot of misplaced confidence.
     
  2. Dec 22, 2015 #42 of 339
    HerronScott

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    If you have an HD and are in those locations on Comcast, please send your TSN's to Margret! I'm not sure what else they would be testing in these locations other than updating the HD to support it given Comcast's move to MPEG4 there.

    Unfortunately the original S3 OLED is not mentioned. :(

    See this post.

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=535049

    Scott
     
  3. Dec 22, 2015 #43 of 339
    lew

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    Not a chance. Maybe Comcast made a request.
     
  4. Dec 22, 2015 #44 of 339
    lpwcomp

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    John's...
    I suppose it's barely possible that people were converting their S3's to OTA thus losing Comcast ADO revenue, but it is extremely unlikely. Especially considering the fact that local channels aren't being converted.
     
  5. Dec 22, 2015 #45 of 339
    gprellwitz

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    I'm in Romeoville and got the letter yesterday too. I have an S3 w/OLED (648) and lifetime that I only got 2 years ago. I also have an S3 with a defunct hard drive (652) that I may try to resurrect if SpinRite can solve the problem. I was thinking along the lines of a Bolt too. I admit I haven't kept up with changes to the Tivo lineup.
     
  6. Dec 22, 2015 #46 of 339
    Pokemon_Dad

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    :) Sometimes I sooo wish these forums had a "like" button. [Edit: Oh wait, there is a "Thanks" button now. Done! Thanks ej42137 for clicking that button here to give me a clue!]

    Thanks for the link! That page has since been updated. It now includes my region (San Francisco Bay Area), but also now separates the HD models from the rest of Series 3, and says my HD units will be OK after an update "sometime in the first half of 2016". That's a relief, as I just got an email from TiVo telling me I can disregard letters from Comcast about this, but it only mentioned Bolts, Roamios, and Premiers, not the HDs. Owners of older Series 3 models are however still out of luck.

    The message from TiVo also says the MPEG4 changeover in the SF area is scheduled for April 2016. I tried to confirm that with @comcastcares but they have no idea. I'm hoping the update for our aging HDs will roll out in time. Unfortunately, everything will probably all work out just fine.

    I say "unfortunately" because for a long moment there I was looking longingly at an upgraded Bolt from Weaknees. Our old TiVo HDs are on their last legs — literally, the plastic feet are cracking off — but I guess we'll just remain calm and soldier on.
     
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  7. Dec 22, 2015 #47 of 339
    lew

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    I don't have Comcast. I was wondering if Comcast supplied TivoHD boxes and wanted to avoid having to swap out the hardware.

    Also possible tivo customers who haven't upgraded might "upgrade" to Comcast DVRs. Keeping those customers with tivo gives tivo a shot of converting them to new equipment later.

    Cable companies have been going to mp4 for the last few years. Strange, assuming its true, tivo is now considering supporting mp4 on older hardware.
     
  8. Dec 22, 2015 #48 of 339
    lpwcomp

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    Never heard of them doing that. Premieres maybe, not TiVoHDs.

    Comcast would definitely prefer that you "upgrade" to X1.

    It was a fairly minor issue until Comcast started doing it. The thing is that the older (TiVo HD) hardware supports mp4 and in fact you can push an mp4 to a TiVo HD and it plays just fine. What it won't do is record one via a tuner nor will a pulled one play properly.
     
  9. Dec 23, 2015 #49 of 339
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    gweempose

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    I just got back from vacation and found this letter from Comcast waiting for me. Since I only have Premiers, Roamios and Minis, is it correct to assume that Comcast's migration to mp4 in my area will have no affect on me?

    My parents, on the other hand, have two of my older Series 3 units. Will they need to upgrade their boxes?
     
  11. Dec 30, 2015 #51 of 339
    unitron

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    Are those 648s or 652/658s?

    If the latter, you may find this of interest

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=535049
     
  12. Dec 30, 2015 #52 of 339
    gweempose

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  13. Dec 30, 2015 #53 of 339
    cherry ghost

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    I'm surprised they haven't seen a change yet. I'm on the north side of Chicago and about 85% of the non-local HD channels have been changed to h.264.
     
  14. Dec 31, 2015 #54 of 339
    murgatroyd

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    I need a 'transfers for dummies' chart.

    So far I've only used TiVo Desktop Plus and kmttg. I know of pyTiVo but have never used it.

    I have the desktop computer and a Roamio. My TiVoHD is a 652.

    What transfers are pushes and which ones are pulls?
     
  15. Dec 31, 2015 #55 of 339
    lpwcomp

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    John's...
    Assuming you're referring to transfers to the TiVo, then if it is initiated from the computer, it's a push. Initiated from "Now Playing" or "My Shows" on the TiVo, it is a pull. A push has to use the TiVo mind server to tell the TiVo to request the transfer. A pull is all local.

    kmttg doesn't do either. I believe that TD+ can do a push but having never used it, I don't know if it will push an mp4 w/o transcoding.

    You might want to consider installing pytivo.
     
  16. Dec 31, 2015 #56 of 339
    jscopes

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    Has anyone called Tivo to inquire about an "upgrade" yet?

    I've tried calling a couple of times and have been a bit underwhelmed... they seem to be at $49 for the 4 tuner, 500GB Roamio with a $15/mo 1 year commitment.

    That offer might be a no-brainer for a single TV household but I don't feel like that's a big enough unit for me to make the switch and convert to a whole-house unit for 2-3 TV's.

    The best that they can do for a 6 tuner Pro is the $499 + $99 lifetime offer that tenured customers were getting earlier this year. Which makes me feel like I'm not getting anything extra for my inconvenience in this matter.

    Does it seem like 4 tuner and 500GB is enough for 3 TV's (with very little live TV being watched on one of them)?

    If I bite I'd have to then upgrade my premier to lifetime and then sell it off along with the lifetimed HD XL (and also purchase 2 mini's).
     
  17. Jan 1, 2016 #57 of 339
    ej42137

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    This thread is drifting farther and faster than a "Big Bang Theory" thread!
     
  18. Jan 1, 2016 #58 of 339
    lpwcomp

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    How are you currently "feeding" 3 TVs with 2 TiVos and a total of 4 tuners?

    Why sell the Premiere?
     
  19. Jan 1, 2016 #59 of 339
    HerronScott

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    That's still a great deal even if they offered it to long term customers before given the cost of All-in pricing today and even given what Lifetime service pricing use to be. I took advantage of it since we're on Comcast and have 2 S3 OLED's which wouldn't be able to get MPEG4 when they finally get around to updating our small town.

    Scott
     
  20. Jan 2, 2016 #60 of 339
    jscopes

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    3rd TV is not on tivo currently, I just added it for my daughter and just gave her a comcast DTA for now.

    I would upgrade and sell off the premiere because i think i'd prefer to have all my content on one tivo.
     

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